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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    A wonder cliche, but completely meaningless. Please reconcile this claim to our history since 1980 when this shallow slogan was first popularized. Most charts on this show only the yachts rose with the tide while the rowboats and dingys bounced in the rough waters with the occupants getting nothing but sea-sick.
    Have you ever read Cervantes' Don Quixote? The protaganist tilted at windmills because he mistook them for malefactors. Because he mistook his the nature of his perceived opponents he ran off half cocked. He saw a windmill and thought it was a knight.

    The year 1980 wasn't the one I was thinking about. I had the year 1945 in mind. Do you know history before 1980?

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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    How do you figure that indigent healthcare is paid by the wealthy and corporations? Post some evidence of this or stand down as it makes zero sense.
    Indigent care is primarily through emergency rooms. Those are primarily paid for by business and residential property taxes. ObamaCare shifts this to people's paychecks. Corporations and the rich pay SIGNIFICANTLY more in property taxes than the middle class. But under Obama care a Billionaire will pay no more for indigent health care than someone punching an hourly clock. ObamaCare is MASSIVE TAX REDUCTIONS for the rich, with the middle class to pick up the difference.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Indigent care is primarily through emergency rooms.....
    which is paid for by artificially inflating ER costs for folks who do have insurance, like you and I.

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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    This is only an extension for 1 year for the middle class.

    Pure smoke and mirrors. Record trillion dollar deficits and Obama proposes a tax increase on people making 250K a more a year during a double dip recession. The expected revenue it will generate is roughly 70 billion. Obama's deficit for this year only is only a trillion+. Amazing. We could take away of the "evil rich's" ill gotten gains and it still wouldn't cover the mountains of debt this corrupt and incompetent administration has left us.

    The Obamabots jump for joy however, singing praises to their messiah.

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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    which is paid for by artificially inflating ER costs for folks who do have insurance, like you and I.
    It's a myth that Free Riders primarily contribute to the rising cost of HC. It's actually Government spending that primarily contributes to it. Same thing for the skyrocketing cost of tuition which is why the next Big Government Program to pop is going to be the Student Loan Program.

    Myths of the "Free Rider" Health Care Problem - Forbes

    HC costs are rising because of Obamatax. It's having the exact opposite effect on the cost of HC that was promised at the time it was rammed down our throats against our will. The cost of HC Insurance is also rising and many people are going to lose coverage who the administration promised would be covered. On top of that if you pay the penalty, which is going to be thousands of dollars, that doesn't mean you get "HC Coverage". No wonder Obama needs 16K new IRS agents to enforce this Authoritarian Monstrosity upon us.

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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Indigent care is primarily through emergency rooms. Those are primarily paid for by business and residential property taxes. ObamaCare shifts this to people's paychecks. Corporations and the rich pay SIGNIFICANTLY more in property taxes than the middle class. But under Obama care a Billionaire will pay no more for indigent health care than someone punching an hourly clock. ObamaCare is MASSIVE TAX REDUCTIONS for the rich, with the middle class to pick up the difference.
    I don't have anything to back it up right now but I don't think that is correct. Most hospitals are private businesses. Hospitals normally make up for non paying customers by raising the prices on paying customers.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Wow. So Obama reiterated the position he has held for the last two years. How is this news? And more importantly, in what way does this help the unemployed, the middle class, or the economy? This president is the king of the inconsequential.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You obviously don't believe in tax rates determined by what the indiviual can afford either. The middle class cannot afford a tax hike now, the top 2% certainly can. That's just how it works.
    What makes you think your determination of what I believe has any basis in reality?

    The fact is...the COUNTRY can't afford a tax hike...on anyone.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    what if Obama offers 3x as much in spending cuts, in exchange for this tax increase on the rich?
    LOL!!!

    That's been promised by the Democrats two time recently...and both times they went back on their promise.

    The Republicans would be stupid to accept such a deal.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Cant pander to me...Im not poor and im upper middle class and I paid a higher percentage of tax than your sleezebag romney did...you know the guy that wont even tell us his Financials...yeah that guy the one hiding the truth.

    Romny has been a rich mans slut since the day his father stuck the golden spoon in his arse in the hospital bassinet...he is clueless to what a real american is and hes been so insulated in life by being born rich he is clueless...get off the soapbox turtle...no one believes you anymore lol...
    So...you're getting smacked around on your position regarding Obama so you feel the need to deflect to Romney, eh?
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