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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how many rich have no earned income

    so you are lying when you claim the rich are getting a free ride
    Why have the rich gamed the system to categorize their income as unearned income? Income is income -- why are you and the free-riding rich lying about that?

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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

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    Why have the rich gamed the system to categorize their income as unearned income? Income is income -- why are you and the free-riding rich lying about that?

    A small far right minority seems to be completely unaware that the rich only got their tax cuts because we allowed it, and due to the failure of trickle down theory, there is no longer a reason for us to allow it.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we start at a point where the rich pay too much and you want them to pay even more

    BUT YOU SUPPORT THE OBAMA TAX PLAN DON'T YOU?
    the rich pay less in tax today as a percentage of their income that at anytime in the last six decades. By definition, that is the DIRECT OPPOSITE of them paying too much.

    They need to pay more if they at all care about American and the American people. We all need to pay more. For some it will be tough but necessary. For the rich, less tough but still necessary.

    What Obama tax plan are you talking about? Has he endorsed mine? I gave you mine.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Why have the rich gamed the system to categorize their income as unearned income? Income is income -- why are you and the free-riding rich lying about that?
    Excellent point. The rich have indeed rigged the game to benefit them above all others. They have successfully negated the progressive nature of the income tax by carving out huge discriminatory preferences for themselves.

    We probably should not be too hard on folks like Turtle. They were born with a silver spoon in their mouth and a silk diaper on their bottoms. When the nanny changed them they had to coo and tell them it smelled like rose petals. As they got older, most babies were weaned of mothers breast but not them. They continued to feed and a trust fund and family connections simply replaced one breast with a different support system.

    It is probably normal and predictable that folks like Turtle cannot be weaned at this late date. They have enjoyed the discriminatory preferences and have gotten quite used to them as simply what they are entitled to.

    I pity them.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    excellent post-when we fund dependence on the government created by the left to make more voters dependent on them-we create more [COLOR=""]demands for taxes[/COLOR] because the dependents are like[COLOR=""] addicts[/COLOR] who have to get more and more and more and those who pander to them must try to tax us more and more and more to keep buying votes
    I thought a little rainbow color might make it look different. But it is still uglier than manure in the field after a hard rain.

    Its amazing how spam rules allow this nonsense to keep being posted in thread after thread after thread.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    real property is taxed under the assumption that state functions are used to maintain or protect that property such as fire, police and garbage [...]
    Wildly untrue. The majority of real property tax is used for public schools[1]. Can the right get anything correct?


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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    [...] the military isn't defending "wealth" but the nation as a whole.
    Since the nation has never been invaded, at least not since the Declaration of Independence, your claim is humorous to the point that you probably don't intend for it to be taken seriously. Not to worry....

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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Why have the rich gamed the system to categorize their income as unearned income? Income is income -- why are you and the free-riding rich lying about that?
    more stupidity. its the government that distinguishes between the two

    how much tax dollars do you pay?

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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

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    Since the nation has never been invaded, at least not since the Declaration of Independence, your claim is humorous to the point that you probably don't intend for it to be taken seriously. Not to worry....


    more gaping idiocy. the war of 1812 ring a bell with you?

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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Wildly untrue. The majority of real property tax is used for public schools[1]. Can the right get anything correct?


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    - - - New Jersey Property Taxes (NJ - 65%)
    - - - http://www.in.gov/dlgf/files/proptax_Vermillion.pdf (IN - 60%)


    I never said the contrary
    you lied about my post-I said protection of private property comes from property taxes

    I never said how those property taxes were allocated

    another fail

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