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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I want everyone who pays too much paying less. I want less government and less power for your dem masters to be able to buy the votes of those who think others have a duty to fund their existence
    Your own posts say otherwise. Would you like to see them..............


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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    And how is your position so radically different?
    Which position would that be?

    What I have repeatedly and frequented advocated is a five point across the board tax INCREASE for anyone earning dollar one - and that would include myself.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Which position would that be?

    What I have repeatedly and frequented advocated is a five point across the board tax INCREASE for anyone earning dollar one - and that would include myself.
    Do I understand you correctly that if a person makes only one dollar a year they are to at least pay 5% of that dollar to the government. How about if a person makes only one dollar a yr they pay a minimum of 10%, and the rate goes up from there. No one escapes paying some taxes.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the rich now pay more of the federal income tax burden share than at anytime in the last 60 years
    The rich have a larger share of income than anytime in the last 60 years, and still they pay a lower tax rate than during the last 80 years, yet still you whine!
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The rich have a larger share of income than anytime in the last 60 years, and still they pay a lower tax rate than during the last 80 years, yet still you whine!
    you pay a lower rate-everyone pays a lower rate so your rant on that has no relevance

    what is relevant is the the rich are the only group that pay more of the income tax than our share of the income and people like you do not

    if there is to be FAIRNESS a group that makes 22% of the income should only pay 22% of the taxes levied on that income and a group that makes 10% of the income should pay 10% of the income tax

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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    I understand you want a society where government creates 'stay busy' work and pays far too much for people to do it. Sorry, that's not the job of government. However national defense is one of the jobs of government.
    What we do is so far beyond "defense" I won't even bother. Again, you're just lying to yourself.

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    All irrelevant to the constitutionality of governments role in providing for national defense.
    Again, it's not "defense" anymore, and hasn't been for decades.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there should be-its called an opinion-look it up

    the from each according to their ability to each group according to the amount of votes they can bestow on a politician is the current scheme
    The current scheme from the other side is to buy the votes that REALLY count - those of Congressmen - directly, by-passing the election process altogether.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I want taxes to be more based on what a person uses. that is a common paradigm in history but it runs counter to the interests of people like those who see the purposes of the tax code as to give congress more power
    The first "taxes", paying tribute to the King, were imposed only on royalty, not on the peasants. For many centuries in England, from which most of our laws and customs come, only royalty - that would be the rich people that make all the decisions - paid taxes. As it currently stands, Fed taxes are slightly out of whack with the "common paradigm in history". Historically, the rich should be paying even more than they do now.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    The current scheme from the other side is to buy the votes that REALLY count - those of Congressmen - directly, by-passing the election process altogether.
    you mean like unions and rich liberals do

    the rich and corporations tend to split

    the unions are about 95% dem

    and union money that goes to dems is often taken from those of us who oppose their politics

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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Psst. Progressive tax rates are socialistic.
    Is that why Adam Smith seemed to agree with them??
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