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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not nonsense at all. If the GOP cared at all about anyone other than their "base", then why would they not agree to the extension of the cuts for the 98% unless the 2% are given tax cuts? The reality is...the GOP is willing to hold the 98% hostage in order to get tax cuts for the wealthiest....call it whatever you want....but it is what it is.
    You know what? How about you talk about this in terms of reality...instead of in terms of spin.

    Current tax rates have been in effect...what?...10 years? Any action this year will not be cutting taxes for anyone. At best, taxes can only stay the same. The Republicans only want to keep taxes at their current level...not cut taxes for anyone.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

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    Not nonsense at all. If the DNC cared at all about anyone other than their "base", then why would they not agree to the extension of the cuts for everyone? The reality is...the DNC is willing to hold the 98% hostage in order to increase taxes on the wealthiest....call it whatever you want....but it is what it is.

    Goes both ways dude. Try looking at the bigger picture from time to time and you might lose the rep as a hack.

    What do you think happened the last time? DOH!....Obama eventually caved in to the GOP's extortion and agreed to their demands for the weathiest. As as result...it has slowed our economic recovery. This time around, Obama is correct in saying no. If the GOP won't agree to the tax cuts, it is on their shoulders. Nice attempt to shift the burden ....but the spin fails.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    You know what? How about you talk about this in terms of reality...instead of in terms of spin.

    Current tax rates have been in effect...what?...10 years? Any action this year will not be cutting taxes for anyone. At best, taxes can only stay the same. The Republicans only want to keep taxes at their current level...not cut taxes for anyone.
    No. Non-action means the tax cuts end. Keeping the tax cuts in effect requires the action. Republicans want to ensure that tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of Americans remain in effect. The reality is, they couldn't care less about the other 98% and their willingness to hold the middle and working class hostage clearly evidences this.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What do you think happened the last time? DOH!....Obama eventually caved in to the GOP's extortion and agreed to their demands for the weathiest. As as result...it has slowed our economic recovery. This time around, Obama is correct in saying no. If the GOP won't agree to the tax cuts, it is on their shoulders. Nice attempt to shift the burden ....but the spin fails.
    More spin, dude.

    Tell me, what tax cuts do you want the Republicans to agree to? What tax cuts have the Democrats proposed that the Republicans are opposed to? From what I've seen, the Democrats only want to keep taxes at their current level for some and they want to increase taxes for others. The Republicans want to keep taxes at current levels for everyone.

    Be honest, dude. Nobody is calling for any kind of tax cuts...no matter how you spin it.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    You know what? How about you talk about this in terms of reality...instead of in terms of spin.

    Current tax rates have been in effect...what?...10 years? Any action this year will not be cutting taxes for anyone. At best, taxes can only stay the same. The Republicans only want to keep taxes at their current level...not cut taxes for anyone.
    Dizzydude, and many others, seem to view letting you keep ANY of your earnings as a tax cut. The fear of allowing ALL (actually just their own) tax rates to revert to the Clinton levels (that they all cheered at the time, of course) is scary, but not allowing "the rich" to pay more is a disaster as those 8 1/2 days of federal spending must be PAID FOR, the rest of the year does not matter, but those 8 1/2 days will ruin the nation if we can't PAY FOR them in 2013. Never mind that Obama DOUBLED the national deficit, that is no big deal, but if we can not pay for 8 1/2 days of gov't spending in 2013, by taxing "the rich" next year, certain economic disaster is assured. Yes they can!
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No. Non-action means the tax cuts end. Keeping the tax cuts in effect requires the action. Republicans want to ensure that tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of Americans remain in effect. The reality is, they couldn't care less about the other 98% and their willingness to hold the middle and working class hostage clearly evidences this.
    Keeping the tax cuts in effect ensure present tax rates for EVERYONE. Not only for the rich. That is the Republican's aim.

    The Democrats, on the other hand, are willing to cause EVERYONE'S taxes to increase...if they can't get a tax increase on the rich.

    Keep on spinning, dude.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    President Obama returns to the tax issue today, with plans to call for a one-year extension of George W. Bush-era tax cuts for the middle class
    Obama wants to cut taxes on the middle class... which is why he insisted on a health insurance tax that targets only that demographic. Yeah right.

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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What do you think happened the last time? DOH!....Obama eventually caved in to the GOP's extortion and agreed to their demands for the weathiest. As as result...it has slowed our economic recovery. This time around, Obama is correct in saying no. If the GOP won't agree to the tax cuts, it is on their shoulders. Nice attempt to shift the burden ....but the spin fails.
    LOL Obama has "caved" every year; these are now the "Obama" tax rates since they have been in effect for every year of his entire term. Why not extend the "Obama" tax rates one more year? Will that $85 billion ruin the Obama recovery in 2013? LOL
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What do you think happened the last time? DOH!....Obama eventually caved in to the GOP's extortion and agreed to their demands for the weathiest. As as result...it has slowed our economic recovery. This time around, Obama is correct in saying no. If the GOP won't agree to the tax cuts, it is on their shoulders. Nice attempt to shift the burden ....but the spin fails.
    So I wasted my breath suggesting you look at the bigger picture and remove yourself from the kingdom of hack? Ok, got it. You are right on only one point, that being your spin does fail. All such hackery fails.
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    Re: Obama to call for middle class tax cut extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    More spin, dude.

    Tell me, what tax cuts do you want the Republicans to agree to? What tax cuts have the Democrats proposed that the Republicans are opposed to? From what I've seen, the Democrats only want to keep taxes at their current level for some and they want to increase taxes for others. The Republicans want to keep taxes at current levels for everyone.

    Be honest, dude. Nobody is calling for any kind of tax cuts...no matter how you spin it.
    Wow......can you be any more dishonest. We are talking about the midnight hour of the Bush tax CUTS......DOH!.....the issue being debated is whether the tax CUTS should reamin in effect or end. I guess you can argue that if the tax cuts end...it increases taxes, so an end to the tax CUTS would be a tax increase.

    Obama campaigned from day 1 that tax cuts should remain in effect for the middle/working class, but the wealthy who CAN afford to pay more SHOULD pay more. So anyone claiming that Obama is playing politics is either ignorning history or just plain dumb.

    The party of NO wouldn't agree to this the first time around without concessions from Obama that protected the wealthy. They held the working/middle class hostage in order to keep tax cuts for the wealthy.

    Essentially they are doing the same again. Republicans cannot stomach the thought of working and middle class Americans getting tax relief unless their wealthy supporters get the same tax cut. That's the bottom line...and unless Obama agrees to give it to their wealthy "base", they won't allow it to go to the people in this country who really need tax relief. Sorry....but that's just the truth.
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