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    Re: Alabama Pastor holds 'whites only' conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I don't care if the Klan meets and burns crosses or has a car wash.. or whatever... and goes on and on about white power and evil black folks and such.
    I won't be attending such a meeting, but I don't care if they have one.

    don't care if black panthers have meetings or BBQ and start yammering on about black power and evil whites either.

    I think it's senseless to say one group of racists is bad because of their racism and another group is fine because of theirs....
    however, when groups that are NOT racist such as the CBC are dishonestly called racist, we have the right & obligation to call this out.

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    Re: Alabama Pastor holds 'whites only' conference

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    You missed my point, which was that the either/or construct doesn't work. Example: Either she voted for him, or she voted against him doesn't factor in the possibility that she didn't vote.

    Lots of folks just ignore or scroll right past knuckledragging racism and don't feel an obligation to respond one way or the other. That was my point.

    Oh, and that not responding one way or the other isn't necessarily proof of anything.
    Your analogy could be more apt. I'll help you. The voter, not intending to vote, nonetheless registers, wakes up nice and early, walks in 10 ft of snow to the polling station, presents her ID, goes into the booth, pulls the shade shut, sees Hitler and Jesus are the only choices, refuses to tell the exit polsters who she voted for, but instead regales them for an hour complaining about the absence of little "I voted stickers" and the impending disaster this omission portends for the republic.

    If you are contributing in this thread and have not decried the racist OP, you are a racist.

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    Re: Alabama Pastor holds 'whites only' conference

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Luckily, some of us dont have any connection to those pig British ancestors that engaged in the institution of slavery...or...well...for that matter only the scantest connection to African ancestry and their horrid history of slavery and human trafficking (a few centuries? Pikers!). And only marginal connection to the Spaniards...good lord...the attrocities those people have committed over time. And the Germans. Oh...and lets not forget the Asians...some of those douchebags have a REALLY nasty history. Then again...fairly tame when compared to some of the things aboriginal tribes from the Americas did to other native people.

    Scourge yourself with loathing and self hatred for the things generations of people across the planet and throughout time have committed. Shame on you all!
    What is the purpose of this post? To deny that whites kept blacks in bondage for 200 years in this country and then kept them legally as second class citizens for another hundred years? You're the one who wants to equate the Congressional Black Caucus with 300 years of institutional racial oppression of blacks by whites.

    And just for the record, we became an independent nation in 1776. Slavery continued for another 90 years and was only ended by a Civil War. Then we allowed instituional racism to flourish for another hundred years. I'm not sure we can blame anybody but us for that, no matter how hard you try.

    Congratulations on an intellectually dishonest effort.
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    Re: Alabama Pastor holds 'whites only' conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    um....these folks are white supremacist racists, KKK-members, who will burn a cross at the end of the meeting.

    why should they get our sympathy?
    Because black people sometimes get together and have cookouts.
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    Re: Alabama Pastor holds 'whites only' conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomfoolery View Post
    Is it asshole territory to ignore that whites have been privileged and blacks oppressed?
    NOt if you are a conservative, apparently. There's that Congressional Black Caucus, you know, which cancels out 300 years of slavery and Jim Crow.
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    Re: Alabama Pastor holds 'whites only' conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Because black people sometimes get together and have cookouts.
    maybe I'm misreading your statement, or failing to understand the context it was presented in (and if I am, I apologize), but there are certainly racist organizations within the African american community that do more than simply "cook out"

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    Re: Alabama Pastor holds 'whites only' conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    maybe I'm misreading your statement, or failing to understand the context it was presented in (and if I am, I apologize), but there are certainly racist organizations within the African american community that do more than simply "cook out"
    Sure there are. What relevance do they have in a societal context? Here I'll explain it to you more simply: Black racism, is sort of a racial version heterophobia (think homophobia in reverse). It exists, no doubt it exist. However it exists in a societal vacuum because it has A) no real generational traction and B) zero relevance.
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    Re: Alabama Pastor holds 'whites only' conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Sure there are. What relevance do they have in a societal context? Here I'll explain it to you more simply: Black racism, is sort of a racial version heterophobia (think homophobia in reverse). It exists, no doubt it exist. However it exists in a societal vacuum because it has A) no real generational traction and B) zero relevance.
    what do you mean by "generational traction"? And while I agree these groups are usually sidelined within mainstream american culture, the same situation hardly exists within the african american community itself. Where these groups are readily visible and generally accepted

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    Re: Alabama Pastor holds 'whites only' conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomfoolery View Post
    I get your drift but it still contains awkward and nonstandard word choices. I would also insert a comma after "moderate" and perhaps redact the one after undisclosed. I probably would not use "lean" either. I suppose this is just because I'm from the "obfuscation camp."
    Why thank you Tom. The comma corrections are good ones--either would work. The lean has to do with that pesky column to the left of these posts. It is a category. Your lean is undisclosed. Unless you make a great deal of effort it will not remain undisclosed as your written words will reveal it.

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    Re: Alabama Pastor holds 'whites only' conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomfoolery View Post
    Why would distinguishing between racism by the powerless against the powerful and racism by the powerful against the powerless be a stupid notion? They are indeed distinguishable, as I just did that, and they are different as to effects. Two good reasons the notion is not stupid. Do you have any reasons why making the distinction is stupid?
    Who is powerful? Are all whites powerful? Are all blacks powerless?
    Is racism bad if practiced by the powerful but not when practiced by the powerless?
    If a powerless black man hates me because I am white and chooses to smash my head in with a brick is that racism okay?

    How does your definition help? Who does it help? Is it just another crutch?

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