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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The Taiwanese are in for a big surprise because Canada's healthcare system has unbelievable waits for care?

    Somehow, I seem to be missing something there.
    The people who are moving to Canada for the healthcare god dammit.

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    My, my! I heard it on the local news. Am I wrong? If so please post the link that refutes what I heard. Thanks.
    Ha,ha, it's the other way around, you made the statement, you provide the links to back it up. Unless it's smoke, in that case we understand.



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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Yes, people are so fed up with "socialized health care" in America, that they're moving. To Canada

    People Who Say They're Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare
    And 83% of all doctors are going to give up their lucrative careers because of the ACA

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...obamacare.html

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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Ha,ha, it's the other way around, you made the statement, you provide the links to back it up. Unless it's smoke, in that case we understand.

    I realize that some read only what they want to read, but I did allow as how Dittohead might be right. You should have read further on in the posts, especially my post 229. I said that Canadians might want to stay in Canada and use their HC system and quoted an article the president of the Canadian Medical Association which stated:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...asted-with-us/

    "Nevertheless, the demands on the system have led to waiting lists for treatments such as MRI scans, cataract and artery bypass surgeries and hip replacements.

    That’s one reason why 70 percent of Canadians have some form of supplemental health insurance, whether or not they plan to visit the United States.

    The Canadian system needs fixing, said Dr. Robert Ouellet, president of the Canadian Medical Association.

    “We have improved waiting times from years to months in most areas, but people still wait too long even in emergency rooms,” he said."


    So this tells me that the "regular" Canadian HC system isn't sufficient. In order to get immediate or elective medical services Canadians BUY "additional" HC policies to cover their visits to the US or private Canadian doctors. I had a family member that lived in Engalnd who tried to us their HC system and found it difficult, so they paid "for a private doctor" to obtain the same type services they enjoyed in America.

    If this sounds like a deal to you, sign up and be happy. I like seeing my doctor while I'm ill or before I die of my illiness.

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    I can see Canadian doctors wanting more money to encourage more modern equipt in more hospitals. More incentives to keep their doctors from being lured away to the big money pit just south of them. (Thinking once we stop the profit race Canada will keep more doctors and get more equipt.) I have been to England where they have excellent healthcare, most Brits buy a supplemental policy in addition to the basic health coverage and consider that the best of both worlds.

    Seems to me very poor people will have better care under a 'Commonwealth' plan, and more affluent folks can buy supplemental to get 'gold' or 'platinum' care without a great deal of angst. I believe motives other than patient care are behind a lot of the scare stories of dying in the hallways waiting for an MRI. Our system has people dying in the ER waiting to be seen.

    What impressed me about the 'socialist' medical system is in the FRG back in the 70's they had a DOCTOR riding in their ambulances for serious accidents and heart attacks. While they didn't have all the whiz bang we do these days the very idea of a doctor in the vehicle at a time where we barely knew what EMT meant says a lot.

    Anyway you slice it rich folks will not wait in halls for treatment that never comes.

    Good doctors will not have to sign up for food stamps.

    There will always be choice and options for people so only the VERY poor will have basic medical care, cable, or auto insurance...

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dagger View Post
    The people who are moving to Canada for the healthcare god dammit.
    People from Taiwan are moving to Canada because of their healthcare system?

    Really?
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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    People from Taiwan are moving to Canada because of their healthcare system?

    Really?
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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

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    Please let the image explain my frustrations towards you.
    Interesting image.

    Your words are the problem. I'm pretty sure you aren't intending to say what you're actually saying.
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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    “We have improved waiting times from years to months in most areas, but people still wait too long even in emergency rooms,” he said."


    So this tells me that the "regular" Canadian HC system isn't sufficient. In order to get immediate or elective medical services Canadians BUY "additional" HC policies to cover their visits to the US or private Canadian doctors. I had a family member that lived in Engalnd who tried to us their HC system and found it difficult, so they paid "for a private doctor" to obtain the same type services they enjoyed in America.

    If this sounds like a deal to you, sign up and be happy. I like seeing my doctor while I'm ill or before I die of my illiness.
    In the US, many people have to wait to see a doctor. Try getting an appt with a geriatric nuerologist for a new patient. It takes up to 6 weeks.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In the US, many people have to wait to see a doctor. Try getting an appt with a geriatric nuerologist for a new patient. It takes up to 6 weeks.
    Imagine being in Canada where "the demands on the system have led to waiting lists for treatments such as MRI scans, cataract and artery bypass surgeries and hip replacements.

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