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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    No it does not. There is no American school system. Never has been one.

    We have tens of thousands of different systems. And within many of those individual systems we have different schools that often are very very different than other schools in the same district.

    Math might be universal but the curriculum is not. Nor are the tests a true or proper reflection of what is taught or learned.

    Kids learn what is taught. I taught many young people who excelled at learning history. I work for one of them today.

    Many schools are doing a wonderful job. Many school districts excel. Many students are doing great. Give their teachers credit and give the unions credit.

    But the point is that America does not have a school system for you to praise or criticize. It simply does not exist.

    Would you support one?
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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    I seriously doubt these people would be welcome in Canada, as their social attitudes would be considered extreme.

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I admit that both leftist and conservative Big Business types sent American jobs to China. For every conservative you show me I can show you a Jeffrey Immelt from General Electric who sent jobs to the wonderful people of China. No one has clean hands. Both sides are at fault. And now at least two full generations of American youth are going to suffer like we haven't seen in more than eighty years.

    Did you know that the California liberals had the SF Bay Bridge expansion/retrofit built in China and shipped in pieces to the Bay Area? Liberals did this. Doesn't that demonstrate hypocrisy. Can you see why I have detached my emotions from America. Otherwise my heart would break.
    I didnt specify Conservatives when I said sending jobs to china, I did say conservatives need to admit that they know that has gone along way to murdering us. Corporate interest and corp greed knows no party lines. The defense of everything they do is what draws the party lines...Conservatives defend it to a fault and Liberals may rail against it to a fault....but greed is eating us alive and its driving what we do and what we are...and that lies right in the lap of the far right....right now.

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Not at all. We're simply RELOADING.
    That's not particularly helpful when you can't hit the broad side of a barn to begin with.

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I'm an athiest. My family is mixed race. I'm the only white in the family. We are your political enemies even if you are a nice guy.
    Sounds to me like you may be your own worst enemy, but not much of a threat to anyone else. People are not required to go through life as dumbed-down and disinformed sociopaths, but some do seem to choose that path anyway.

    Do you realize that this China of yours since 1995 has lost more manufacturing jobs than the US presently has? Do you realize that with roughly three times our population, China manages to produce only about one-third of our GDP? Do you understand that without huge trade surpluses with somebody, China simply lacks the funding necessary to support its nascent urban middle-class and that without the political support (more like toleration at this point) of that group, the current government cannot stand?

    I don't think you have ever thought about any of that. I think you have a hopelessly narrow, provincial, and simplistic view of the world that will never do you or anyone else any good at all.

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Did you know that the California liberals had the SF Bay Bridge expansion/retrofit built in China and shipped in pieces to the Bay Area? Liberals did this. Doesn't that demonstrate hypocrisy.
    What have you got against free-market economics all of a sudden? Was a less expensive or higher qulity source available in the US? No? LOL!

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Conservatives are sending jobs overseas, while liberals are buying infrastructure from China. Who will save us? I suppose it will be up to the Libertarians.
    Libertarians are principally a bunch of ex-neocon Bush supporters who are now too ashamed to admit it. These are about the last people you want to trust with anything.

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    The fact is that math and science are universal. American kids don't to well on the PISA rankings, and they don't accumulate sufficient knowledge to compete with kids in Shanghai or the rest of the Sinosphere.
    Ah yes, the Sinosphere. Meanwhile, why don't you visit some private fundie Christian schools in the rural south and see how "universal" math and science are. You could start for instance with Liberty University (sic) where school-sponsored displays have implied that humans and dinosaurs coexisted.

    Meanwhile, the success of many school systems in OECD countries is obviously something to be welcomed and encouraged. And that success has come in significant part from their importing and applying lessons learned in studying our methods and systems. Further, the differences you cite are actually small and often inconclusive in the statistical sense. Canada for instance has been a consistent Top Ten scorer across the board since the PISA surveys began. Their school systems are structured and administered in much the same ways that ours are. What should we do in order to better emulate Canada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I acknowledge part of this is cultural...but the political culture of this country requires that full blame be laid at the feet of teachers and their unions. That's the way the game is played.
    No, that's just the way you've chosen to play it. You've made a very poor choice.

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    That's not particularly helpful when you can't hit the broad side of a barn to begin with.
    Don't worry we're more than capable of hitting what we aim at.

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

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