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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    A fundamentalist what? A fundamentalist Islamic? A fundamentalist Christian? A fundamentalist authoritarian? If by "True USA" you mean "Puritan USA" circa the 18th century, I think you'll be shocked to find out just how unwelcome you'll be in their society.
    A Fundamentalist. I don't believe in religion. By True USA I mean the USA of pre-1860. If you have a better idea of where I should go, please let me know.

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    What about your special medical needs that require our society's best medical treatment?
    At this point I'd almost rather be a blind epileptic than an American citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    A Fundamentalist. I don't believe in religion. By True USA I mean the USA of pre-1860. If you have a better idea of where I should go, please let me know.
    I don't know of many places who live in the early 19th century. Well let's see. You're looking for a pre-1860ish society where women and blacks have no rights. Maybe somewhere in Africa? The DRC would be my choice. Women barely have any rights. Actually most of the population has few rights (extra points as most of them are already black). You also have the added bonus of an elitist government and the issue of taxation is mostly moot. I think that's perfect. Off to the Congo you go Tigger! Promise to write?
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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    A Fundamentalist. I don't believe in religion. By True USA I mean the USA of pre-1860. If you have a better idea of where I should go, please let me know.



    At this point I'd almost rather be a blind epileptic than an American citizen.
    I suggest remote parts of afghanistan or pakistan, Really remote parts, They are basically livign in that time. Thouhg you might see american soldeirs from time to tiem or perhaps just drones
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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    I suggest remote parts of afghanistan or pakistan, Really remote parts, They are basically livign in that time. Thouhg you might see american soldeirs from time to tiem or perhaps just drones
    You know, Pakistan might actually be an option. Thanks for the idea Quag. It also makes the whole process of renouncing citizenship easier since we do have diplomatic relations with Pakistan. Now I just have to find out if that Embassy/Counsel is one that REQUIRES foreign citizenship before they will process a renounciation request.

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol. Why not Somalia? I'm sure they'll treat you nicely in a heavily Islamic anti-American society.
    Tigger's not a libertarian, he likes the idea of a repressive authoritarian regime. Iran would be a great fit for him, as long as he's willing to convert to Islam.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    A Fundamentalist. I don't believe in religion. By True USA I mean the USA of pre-1860. If you have a better idea of where I should go, please let me know.
    North Korea and China both have forms of slavery and repressive, authoritarian regimes.


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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Boring Bob View Post
    I'm generally against direct government control, but having lived in Canada and heard the opinions of my many Canadian family members and friends, I'm quite confident in the Canadian system's superiority. It's one of the things I miss about living there. Everyone gets basic dental and medical coverage with the result being an overall healthier society. The odd person has to come to the U.S. for a procedure, but that's a problem with the low population density of the country rather than a problem with the "socialized" payment methodology.
    I have to correct you on one of your statements. We don't have governament coverage for basic dental (or anything dental). But most employers will offer some sort of insurance. For instance my basic dental cost is covered to about 85%. Of course, I fork over the other 15%.
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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Tigger's not a libertarian, he likes the idea of a repressive authoritarian regime. Iran would be a great fit for him, as long as he's willing to convert to Islam.
    So long as they don't care that I simply go through the motions.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    North Korea and China both have forms of slavery and repressive, authoritarian regimes.
    NK does not have diplomatic relations with the USA, which creates the same issue as Iran. China is an option, though probably not as good as Pakistan.

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    You know, Pakistan might actually be an option. Thanks for the idea Quag. It also makes the whole process of renouncing citizenship easier since we do have diplomatic relations with Pakistan. Now I just have to find out if that Embassy/Counsel is one that REQUIRES foreign citizenship before they will process a renounciation request.

    There's the whole 'crossing borders' thing that just might cause you a few problems if you aren't in possession of a valid passport when you attempt to enter another country. Hell, how are you going to get on an airplane without a passport? I've had problems a couple of times, once when my passport had expired while I was at sea and once when the US immigration agent didn't like the fact that I had a Canadian passport even though I had been born in the States. Airport immigration guys are the worst, only once had a problem with a dockside immigration agent and that was a simple one fixed with a phone call.

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    Re: People say they're moving to Canada because of Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    There's the whole 'crossing borders' thing that just might cause you a few problems if you aren't in possession of a valid passport when you attempt to enter another country. Hell, how are you going to get on an airplane without a passport? I've had problems a couple of times, once when my passport had expired while I was at sea and once when the US immigration agent didn't like the fact that I had a Canadian passport even though I had been born in the States. Airport immigration guys are the worst, only once had a problem with a dockside immigration agent and that was a simple one fixed with a phone call.
    As I mentioned yesterday, I'm probably going to have to get citizenship in another country, then renounce the US citizenship, then renounce the citizenship in that other nation. That's just the way it's likely going to have to work.

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