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CIA Documents Show 9/11 Bin Laden Warnings Ignored

American said:
So you're a truther.
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No. Not at all. But by stating facts that are from our own CIA stated that we knew that Bin Laden was going to attack, that we knew the people who are going to carry out the attack are here, and that we know that they are going to attack DC and NYC our gov sat back and did nothing but ignored them.
A truther believes that Bush knew when and what they were going to attack that he let it happen on purpose, planted some bombs in the building and brought them down. That is not what i believe.
So dont play this off as some kind of ****ing conspiracy theory because if it was it would be in the "conspiracy theory" section.
 
Thunder said:
nobody was warned about Al Qaeda flying 4 planes into the WTC, Pentagon, and White House on 9-11-01.

there were only vague threats of an impending attack
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How do you explain the Mossad agent in New Jersey there to document what was happening then?
 
Sarcogito said:
Yeah, as much as I despise Bush, I can in no way fault him 9-11. As far as teh information being actionable, yes, the warnings were vague. Also, most warnings, even those considered highly credible, end up never amounting to anything. But I realize it is tempting to play the 20-20 hindsight game. I will sure as hell blame Bush for his response to 9-11, but I won't put the blame for the attack on him.
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Ya, I'm also fairly sure that bush was only guilty after the fact concerning 9-11, and if he did know anything prior to 9-11 it was probably just those vague warnings.

Cheney, on the other hand, is involved. Look at mr panettas testimony in congress to start.
 
jpevans said:
Yet, dozens of threats against targets within the US, including some that specifically mention targets in New York City and Washington DC (even including the World Trade Center and the Pentagon) were also received over the years by our government.

• August 6, 2001 – President Bush receives memo titled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US.” The memo reads in part: “bin Laden wanted to hijack US aircraft to gain the release” of Oman Abdul Rahman and others” and tells of “suspicious activity in the US consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.”

• August 21, 2001 – Jordanian inmate Walik Arkeh warns the FBI of an impending terrorist attack. He had befriended three men in a British jail in 2000-2001, each of whom had connections to UBL and al Qaeda and were indicted co-conspirators for the August 1998 US embassy bombings. His warning included “something big is going to happen in New York City” and that the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center is “unfinished business.” He also mentioned targets in Washington, DC but he did not know the date or method of the attacks. Arkeh is later deported to Jordan.

More at Link..... :peace
Other Warnings about Terrorism Prior to 9/11
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The aircraft were stated as a means to release prisoners, followed by mights and maybes by a convicted felon. I'm sorry, but even in the field that's not enough to justify an op, let alone an FBI investigation.
 
Thunder said:
nobody was warned about Al Qaeda flying 4 planes into the WTC, Pentagon, and White House on 9-11-01.

there were only vague threats of an impending attack
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this, and it doesn't rise to anywhere near the level of LIHOP.

interestingly, i vividly remember reading an article on CNN in August of '01 about a risk of terror attacks on planes. i haven't been able to find the article, however.
 
Thunder said:
that is a lie.

they never claimed they were in New Jersey simply to document 9-11.
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One of them specifically stated that, actually.
 
Thunder said:
I'd like to see ANY evidence that Bush was warned about a terrorist attack in NYC on 9-11-01 using passenger planes.
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Ha-Ha!

So would I, Thunder.

The radical Left loves to invent and make up these stories about George Bush.

However, here is something about the very foolish Democrats that they cannot deny!

NBC News has obtained, exclusively, extraordinary secret video, shot by the U.S. government. It illustrates an enormous opportunity the Clinton administration had to kill or capture bin Laden. Critics call it a missed opportunity.

In the fall of 2000, in Afghanistan, unmanned, unarmed spy planes called Predators flew over known al-Qaida training camps. The pictures that were transmitted live to CIA headquarters show al-Qaida terrorists firing at targets, conducting military drills and then scattering on cue through the desert.

Also, that fall, the Predator captured even more extraordinary pictures — a tall figure in flowing white robes. Many intelligence analysts believed then and now it is bin Laden.

Why does U.S. intelligence believe it was bin Laden? NBC showed the video to William Arkin, a former intelligence officer and now military analyst for NBC. “You see a tall man…. You see him surrounded by or at least protected by a group of guards.”

Bin Laden is 6 foot 5. The man in the video clearly towers over those around him and seems to be treated with great deference.

Another clue: The video was shot at Tarnak Farm, the walled compound where bin Laden is known to live. The layout of the buildings in the Predator video perfectly matches secret U.S. intelligence photos and diagrams of Tarnak Farm obtained by NBC.

“It’s dynamite. It’s putting together all of the pieces, and that doesn’t happen every day.… I guess you could say we’ve done it once, and this is it,” Arkin added.

The tape proves the Clinton administration was aggressively tracking al-Qaida a year before 9/11. But that also raises one enormous question: If the U.S. government had bin Laden and the camps in its sights in real time, why was no action taken against them?

“We were not prepared to take the military action necessary,” said retired Gen. Wayne Downing, who ran counter-terror efforts for the current Bush administration and is now an NBC analyst.

Osama bin Laden: missed opportunities - NBCNightlyNews - NBCNews.com
 
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Jango said:
How do you explain the Mossad agent in New Jersey there to document what was happening then?
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Seen this in another thread, still havenèt seen amythign coming close to proving this.
 
jpevans said:

You, sir, are correct. They didn't have the date.
The WTC, Pentigon &WH, were given as a possible target.
Hijacking a plane & useing it as a guided missal was mentioned as a possibe plan of attack. :peace
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Analysts come up with all kinds of targets and scenarios; that's what they're paid for. And of course the available intelligence can point to any number of possibilities.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Well usually when you have intelligence that says what cities the attacks are going to happen at i think you would not ignore those warning and take action. Im not in anyway blaming Bush for 9/11 im simply stating the warnings were there and he did not act and simply ignored them.
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Of course you blame Bush, I quote:

"So maybe the saying that Bush was warned about the 9/11 attacks isnt a "conspiracy theory"after all.. And yet he ran on that he "protected us"? More like one of the biggest security failures ever done by our intelligence community and the executive.. History will prove that Bush is one of the worst presidents ever."
 
Born Free said:
Of course you blame Bush, I quote:

"So maybe the saying that Bush was warned about the 9/11 attacks isnt a "conspiracy theory"after all.. And yet he ran on that he "protected us"? More like one of the biggest security failures ever done by our intelligence community and the executive.. History will prove that Bush is one of the worst presidents ever."
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Uhh where in that quote did I blame bush for the 9/11 attacks?
 
It was a huge security failure but I can't agree that you can somehow pin this on the President. It's pretty hard to imagine that Bush was told about an imminent attack and said "naw, don't worry about it".

It was a failure between our so-called Intelligence agencies. Most of the upper ranks are political appointees, not true intelligence operatives. They jealously guard their little empires and worry about getting credit.

Personally, I thought Bush was as dumb as a box of rocks and I hated the sight of his smirking face. However, I can't possibly think he was directly to blame for the events that occurred. For using those events to create a war in Iraq for the primary purpose of looting the country by his friends, yeah, I do blame him for that.
 
specklebang said:
It was a huge security failure but I can't agree that you can somehow pin this on the President.
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It's because the president is an easily recognizable figurehead, and the first person everyone turns to in the face of disaster or attack. It's mostly due to ignorance, prime example being the heavy blame placed on Bush for Mayor Nagan's utter incompetence during Hurricane Katrina. Domestic security and defense prior to 9/11 would have been up to the CIA, and FBI. Not former President Bush.
 
9/11 was the result of an intelligence and political failure that spanned two administrations. I'm not sure how much good it does to ascribe especial blame to one or the other. Suffice to say we should move forward with any recommendations the intelligence community puts forward.
 
Sherman123 said:
9/11 was the result of an intelligence and political failure that spanned two administrations. I'm not sure how much good it does to ascribe especial blame to one or the other. Suffice to say we should move forward with any recommendations the intelligence community puts forward.
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No concerns that recommendations put forth by the intelligence agencies might be self-serving?
 
specklebang said:
It was a huge security failure but I can't agree that you can somehow pin this on the President. It's pretty hard to imagine that Bush was told about an imminent attack and said "naw, don't worry about it".

It was a failure between our so-called Intelligence agencies. Most of the upper ranks are political appointees, not true intelligence operatives. They jealously guard their little empires and worry about getting credit.

Personally, I thought Bush was as dumb as a box of rocks and I hated the sight of his smirking face. However, I can't possibly think he was directly to blame for the events that occurred. For using those events to create a war in Iraq for the primary purpose of looting the country by his friends, yeah, I do blame him for that.
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You're a leftwing talking point. When you obtain an MBA from Harvard and become President, come talk to me about rocks okay?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
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CIA Documents Show 9/11 Bin Laden Warnings Ignored - YouTube
So maybe the saying that Bush was warned about the 9/11 attacks isnt a "conspiracy theory"after all.. And yet he ran on that he "protected us"? More like one of the biggest security failures ever done by our intelligence community and the executive.. History will prove that Bush is one of the worst presidents ever.

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So was Clinton. A bipartisan screw up. How shocking.
 
iguanaman said:
Right. Instead you give the Medal of Freedom to the man who bungled all the warnings before 911 and THEN bungled the existance of WMD's in Iraq!
Can you even begin to see why I despise that man? WTF did Tenet do right? Or was it that he did it all for Bush the reason for the medal?
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It's actually much worse than bungle. If you read Woodward's book about Bush during this period it claims that Tenet's first response after hearing of the attacks is "I hope it's not those guys in the flight school". What made it worse is the investigation into how it happened got throttled trying to coverup the incompetence at every level which has given rise to all kinds of theories. Ever listen to atc recordings on youtube... The only people who seem to have a clue was Boston ATC. The people they called... Yikes did they have their heads up their a**
 
John.NoseTip said:
It's actually much worse than bungle. If you read Woodward's book about Bush during this period it claims that Tenet's first response after hearing of the attacks is "I hope it's not those guys in the flight school". What made it worse is the investigation into how it happened got throttled trying to coverup the incompetence at every level which has given rise to all kinds of theories. Ever listen to atc recordings on youtube... The only people who seem to have a clue was Boston ATC. The people they called... Yikes did they have their heads up their a**
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One of the most frightening things about 911 was that VP Cheney went down into the WH bunker BEFORE the attacks happened. He made some lame excuse like " I just wanted to see what it looked like."
Things like that do make you wonder........I am still afraid of another Republican in the WH. It would be too easy to "miss" another plot and reap the benefits like Bush did.
 
iguanaman said:
One of the most frightening things about 911 was that VP Cheney went down into the WH bunker BEFORE the attacks happened. He made some lame excuse like " I just wanted to see what it looked like."
Things like that do make you wonder........I am still afraid of another Republican in the WH. It would be too easy to "miss" another plot and reap the benefits like Bush did.
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I'm not an expert on the topic but I do have a few questions based on what I do know

* Cheney in the bunker saying the order still stands. In the testimony the order appeared to be the order to shoot down planes but the military jets were headed in the wrong direction so something doesn't add up

* The passport they found several blocks from the world trade center. Did you see the crashes how the hell does a passport survive that?

* Who financed their flight training and living expenses? According to the commission financing wasn't important so they didn't look at it

* Why did cheney and bush refuse to testify separately as was requested?

* Atta lived with a stripper and did coke like a wildman and he's a devout muslim?

* Why the hell did Barbara Bodine get promoted to a position in the Iraqi Provisional Council? She f***ed up the cole investigation that may have lead to atta. She is an absolute horror of a human being that will be back in government if she's not already back.

I'm not a so called "truther" because I haven't seen enough to make me draw the same conclusions they do. However, I have much more respect for them than people who think the 9/11 report answered all questions and it's wrong to challenge the conclusions they reached. What I find ironic is many of the people who mock so called truthers are the same people who believe Bush didn't lie about "weapons of mass destruction".
 
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