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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by Howler63 View Post
    I don't think Congress qualifies for Medicare. Their system is for life and infinitely better.
    It does. http://mcmorris.house.gov/uploads/Au...ofCongress.PDF

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    I have no real problem with it.

    He pays into social security - why should he not take what he is entitled to?

    I think it is a political mistake to keep taking it because the ignorant masses will judge him negatively for it.

    But morally; if he is entitled to it and he is forced to pay into it - then I see little/nothing wrong with taking what the government owes him.

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    i'm not sure this meets the hypocritical bar, since he paid in for his whole life. i think that Paul also doesn't believe in currency that isn't backed by gold or precious metals. is he a hypocrite if he uses a five dollar bill to buy a sandwich? i'd say no.

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is nonsense. Ron Paul has indeed offered several bills for consideration, just that they go nowhere, rarely even making it out of committee. The ultimate in hypocracy is Obama, he blames our economic ills on the "Bush" tax rates yet gladly extends them and signs them into law. He had overwhelming control and support of demorats in congress for two full years yet NEVER suggested getting rid of the "Bush" tax rates, UNTIL after 2010 when he knew that the GOP would not allow them. Even then, he sought only a PARTIAL return to them, for only those in the TOP brackets, his "millionaires" that make $200K ($250K joint) or more. LOL
    First, I never said that Rep. Paul has never introduced any bills. He has.

    Second, I stated that Rep. Paul offered no bills during the financial crisis. One can go to Thomas.gov and look up Paul's legislation during the September-October 2008 period when TARP was being devised and then debated. One will find that he introduced no alternatives.

    Third, I didn't go so far as to suggest that Rep. Paul is a hypocrite. I mentioned that what he says and what he does do not always match up. Moreover, I noted that he is just another political leader [in terms of stated views vs. actions]. There are good reasons why such differences exist and I don't necessarily condemn political leaders for such differences. My point is that Ron Paul should not be exalted as something special in the political arena. He isn't.

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Another political actor chimes in.

    Hey guys, he uses fiat currency too. Get the pitch forks.

    /idiocy
    You missed the point.

    If one wants to argue that he has no responsibility whatsoever for the fiscal deficits, then one should not partake in anything related to fiscal policy. That Rep. Paul has actively earmarked spending that contributes to deficits makes him indirectly responsible for the consequences of those expenditures.

    In terms of fiat currency, that has been in place well before Rep. Paul was elected to Congress. Paul's use of such currency is not the same thing as his earmarking. He has no alternatives over the former. If he lives and works in the U.S., he must use U.S. currency. He does have alternatives over the latter. He could vote against the spending and choose not to allocate such spending either via the earmarking process.

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    so he participates in a program that he considers to be Socialist and a ponzi scheme?

    huh.

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I can hear the libertarians
    Hes "ENTITLED" to it he paid into it
    They stole his money, he should want to get it back and blahblahblah....heres what I say


    PHONY!!!!!!!!!! PHONY!!!!!!!!!!!PHONY!!!!!!!!!!! lol



    Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) may rail against Social Security insolvency in the public eye, but that hasn't stopped him from accepting the government checks.
    The libertarian-leaning Republican and former presidential candidate admitted Wednesday that he accepts Social Security checks just minutes after he called for younger generations to wean themselves off the program, in an interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."


    Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitutional
    Not phony at all. Wanting to change the system doesn't mean one shouldn't use the system...especially when one is PAYING for said system.

    He'd be a "PHONY" if he was saying it was unconstitutional and should be fought....and then once he reached the age to start drawing from it suddenly changed his mind and was against it.

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    taking advantage of a system that you consider to be corrupt, criminal, & communist...is pretty darn hypocritical.

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    What's next? Is that hypocrite paying his taxes, too? The nerve...

    (sarcasm alert for any looney libs who might be confused otherwise)
    Last edited by vendur; 06-20-12 at 04:39 PM.

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Did you support the Bush Tax Cuts when they were passed Thunder?

    If you didn't support the bills that enacted the Bush Tax Cuts, have you been giving back additional money in taxes that you've not claimed from the government to make up for the amount that you saved from a bill that was passed which you disagreed with?

    Because, of course, you're not a hypocrite that functions within the system that is in place in reality rather than determining your life based on a fantasy land where everything you ever wanted is what actually is occuring, right?

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