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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Also what of these "hypocrites" like Warren Buffet that call for higher taxes on the rich, but do everything they can to legally pay the lowest rate possible?
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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Dude, I'm not a supporter. I like the guy at times, he seems genuine, but alot of his ideas are ****ing crazy. I'd never vote for him as president because I don't agree with many of his views.

    Regardless, for the reasons I've already clearly stated, I don't think he's being a hypocrite. He thinks social security doesn't belong, but he's already paid into it so he should get what is owed to him.
    he continues to pay into it too as he is still employed

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    he continues to pay into it too as he is still employed
    Yea, I wasn't sure how that worked for seniors, if they still had to pay into it or not.

    Regardless, he paid into it even though he's against it, he should get his money owed to him even if he's against it. That is not hypocritical.
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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    This situation is not surprising. What he says and what he does are not necessarily the same thing upon closer inspection.

    When it comes to the nation's fiscal deficits, Ron Paul has asserted that he has never voted for a budget that has a deficit. Technically that's accurate. In substance, he's contributed. He has been very active in inserting earmarks into those bills. In other words, he has been active in allocating appropriations that contribute to the nation's deficits. He has merely voted against the bills even as he has helped divide the spending to create the impression of "fiscal sainthood" so to speak. One can't have his cake and eat it, too.

    When it came to the financial crisis, he loudly and frequently condemned extraordinary measures as TARP. However, he proposed not even a single alternative. It's easy to criticize the effort of others when one isn't offering something of one's own that might well be subject to similar scrutiny.

    In short, I am not at all surprised that he receives Social Security. I also fully expect that he receives Medicare, too.

    In the end, the proverbial emperor is naked. However, one should not expect Paul's fervent supporters to see any flaws of any kind in their "prophet." However, the reality is that Ron Paul is just another political leader. He does not deserve to be exalted above all the rest. His actions are not extraordinary.
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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Libertarians ALREADY have a bad rap as 'crazies' or hypocrites. This sort of thing just reinforces that misconception. Paul is the face of the Libertarian movement and he, above all others, must present a consistent message.

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by Howler63 View Post
    This bolsters my earlier point about Ron Paul not being the leader the Libertarians need to break the duopoly of the two party system.

    If you talk the talk, you must walk the walk.
    What Ron Paul has proposes as a "fix" for SS has NO changes for current retirees. Think, before you drink, even koolaid.

    Link: Political positions of Ron Paul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    I also fully expect that he receives Medicare, too.
    I don't think Congress qualifies for Medicare. Their system is for life and infinitely better.

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by Howler63 View Post
    Libertarians ALREADY have a bad rap as 'crazies' or hypocrites. This sort of thing just reinforces that misconception. Paul is the face of the Libertarian movement and he, above all others, must present a consistent message.
    He does. Link: Political positions of Ron Paul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    This situation is not surprising. What he says and what he does are not necessarily the same thing upon closer inspection.

    When it comes to the nation's fiscal deficits, Ron Paul has asserted that he has never voted for a budget that has a deficit. Technically that's accurate. In substance, he's contributed. He has been very active in inserting earmarks into those bills. In other words, he has been active in allocating appropriations that contribute to the nation's deficits. He has merely voted against the bills even as he has helped divide the spending to create the impression of "fiscal sainthood" so to speak. One can't have his cake and eat it, too.

    When it came to the financial crisis, he loudly and frequently condemned extraordinary measures as TARP. However, he proposed not even a single alternative. It's easy to criticize the effort of others when one isn't offering something of one's own that might well be subject to similar scrutiny.

    In short, I am not at all surprised that he receives Social Security. I also fully expect that he receives Medicare, too.

    In the end, the proverbial emperor is naked. However, one should not expect Paul's fervent supporters to see any flaws of any kind in their "prophet." However, the reality is that Ron Paul is just another political leader. He does not deserve to be exalted above all the rest. His actions are not extraordinary.

    Another political actor chimes in.

    Hey guys, he uses fiat currency too. Get the pitch forks.

    /idiocy

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    This situation is not surprising. What he says and what he does are not necessarily the same thing upon closer inspection.

    When it comes to the nation's fiscal deficits, Ron Paul has asserted that he has never voted for a budget that has a deficit. Technically that's accurate. In substance, he's contributed. He has been very active in inserting earmarks into those bills. In other words, he has been active in allocating appropriations that contribute to the nation's deficits. He has merely voted against the bills even as he has helped divide the spending to create the impression of "fiscal sainthood" so to speak. One can't have his cake and eat it, too.

    When it came to the financial crisis, he loudly and frequently condemned extraordinary measures as TARP. However, he proposed not even a single alternative. It's easy to criticize the effort of others when one isn't offering something of one's own that might well be subject to similar scrutiny.

    In short, I am not at all surprised that he receives Social Security. I also fully expect that he receives Medicare, too.

    In the end, the proverbial emperor is naked. However, one should not expect Paul's fervent supporters to see any flaws of any kind in their "prophet." However, the reality is that Ron Paul is just another political leader. He does not deserve to be exalted above all the rest. His actions are not extraordinary.
    That is nonsense. Ron Paul has indeed offered several bills for consideration, just that they go nowhere, rarely even making it out of committee. The ultimate in hypocracy is Obama, he blames our economic ills on the "Bush" tax rates yet gladly extends them and signs them into law. He had overwhelming control and support of demorats in congress for two full years yet NEVER suggested getting rid of the "Bush" tax rates, UNTIL after 2010 when he knew that the GOP would not allow them. Even then, he sought only a PARTIAL return to them, for only those in the TOP brackets, his "millionaires" that make $200K ($250K joint) or more. LOL
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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