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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    I'm not a big Ron Paul fan. I don't particularly like some of his policy ideas.

    I don't find his actions problematic. He paid into SS. I'm sure his position is that it's his money that the government took from him. Therefore, he's just getting back money that he earned. Why is that wrong?


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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Obama wants to raise taxes on the wealthy, but he did not pay one cent over what he was required to pay.

    it is exactly the same scenario.

    If Obama gets his way, he will have to pay more taxes, but until then, he isn't going to do it on his own.

    So is Obama a hypocrite?
    lol... Obama would pay more taxes on his tax plan than he would under Romney's. What do you want wealthy liberals to do? That's like arguing "if you're so worried about the debt, then why haven't you personally donated your money to the government.... you must be a liar and hypocrite."

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'm not a big Ron Paul fan. I don't particularly like some of his policy ideas.

    I don't find his actions problematic. He paid into SS. I'm sure his position is that it's his money that the government took from him. Therefore, he's just getting back money that he earned. Why is that wrong?

    Because you get your money back within 2.5 yrs and hes been collecting it 14 years longer than any babyboomer

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'm not a big Ron Paul fan. I don't particularly like some of his policy ideas.

    I don't find his actions problematic. He paid into SS....
    he didn't have to. He could have simply paid 7.5% of his salary into a 401K, and avoided FICA taxes.

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Damn right. I paid in 180K in SS and almost the same for Medicare. I've never taken a dime from the government but those 2 I paid dearly for and I now am working to get my money back. I'll have to live 9 more years just to break even, and that's with NO intertest.

    Now, SSI is a very abused system and I've seen young people who have succeeded in getting on the dole. Paid in almost nothing and a free ride for life.


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    Then we should all get our money back from the system. Every single person who has paid into it, should never be expect to not receive the money back plus interest. If Libertarians argue, no... the government can't afford to do that, then they support their definition of government theft

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Damn right. I paid in 180K in SS and almost the same for Medicare. I've never taken a dime from the government but those 2 I paid dearly for and I now am working to get my money back. I'll have to live 9 more years just to break even, and that's with NO intertest.

    Now, SSI is a very abused system and I've seen young people who have succeeded in getting on the dole. Paid in almost nothing and a free ride for life.

    That is the entire problem with Social Security...people that have paid into it a lifetime and they collect at 62 are not.

    There are people in their 20s on Disability Social Security for Mental Illness and Alcoholism and Drug addiction....there are people on Dis SS for obesity...young people. There are tons of people collecting disability social security that SHOULD NOT BE...and that are not even disabled just scamming the sy stem....thats why ss is broke...plus all the money Dems and GOP alike stole out of the fund.

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    That's about it. I started collecting at 67, the age of full benefits.

    Golden Gate Park in San Francisco is loaded with "homeless" people on SSI. Nice deal. Too bad we can't restrict this to the genuinely handicapped. Nut out government is not just corrupt, but incompetent as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    That is the entire problem with Social Security...people that have paid into it a lifetime and they collect at 62 are not.

    There are people in their 20s on Disability Social Security for Mental Illness and Alcoholism and Drug addiction....there are people on Dis SS for obesity...young people. There are tons of people collecting disability social security that SHOULD NOT BE...and that are not even disabled just scamming the sy stem....thats why ss is broke...plus all the money Dems and GOP alike stole out of the fund.

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    That's about it. I started collecting at 67, the age of full benefits.

    Golden Gate Park in San Francisco is loaded with "homeless" people on SSI. Nice deal. Too bad we can't restrict this to the genuinely handicapped. Nut out government is not just corrupt, but incompetent as well.
    Alot of people dont know that full SS age is 67 and has been quite awhile...you take a huge hit taking it at 62....
    I dont begrudge them one bit...but all disabled vets get disablitly social security and they are the MOST deserving of it...

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    That's about it. I started collecting at 67, the age of full benefits.

    Golden Gate Park in San Francisco is loaded with "homeless" people on SSI. Nice deal. Too bad we can't restrict this to the genuinely handicapped. Nut out government is not just corrupt, but incompetent as well.


    I bristle when people say that if your collecting social security your sucking the govts teat and your this and that...

    I paid social security from the day I started working and I had no choice, I could not invest that money in anything else and there were no 401ks.....I paid for the generation before me to have it...I paid it over 45 yrs....Im not the one getting a free ride
    Its all the YOUNG non veterans that are on it that are sucking the govts teat...they paid nothing into it

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    Re: Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitut

    Know what theres something else I forgot to mention...not only are there young people collecting social security...No matter what age you are if your on disablity social security after 2 yrs you get MEDICARE...you have all these young people getting medicare....
    Young people with aids are on Dis Social Security and Medicare....this is why SS and Medicare are broke..
    The far right of the rich for the rich have siezed upon bad times to make a crisis out of everything...so they can open up the rich mans candy store where they can go in and take and keep all the make...

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