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    Bloody terrorists killed 8 Turkish soldiers

    8 Turkish troops killed in PKK attack in southeast Turkey

    At least eight Turkish soldiers have been killed and 16 others wounded in an attack by the members of the terrorist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) in southeast Turkey.


    Local security services said the incident occurred in Yuksekova border region on Tuesday when the terrorists infiltrated into Turkey from their bases in northern Iraq to attack an army post in Yesiltas region in Hakkari province.

    Reports said Turkish forces and combat helicopters pursued the attackers in the mountainous region which has been the scene of violent clashes between security forces and the PKK rebels in the past.

    "Operations are continuing in the region. According to preliminary findings, 10 terrorists were rendered ineffective," the local governor's office said.

    Thousands of PKK elements are believed to be based in mountain hideouts in northern Iraq, from where they regularly launch attacks on Turkish targets.

    PKK is a terrorist group that launched an armed insurgency in 1984 to gain autonomy.

    Listed as a terrorist group by Ankara and most of the international community, the group is held responsible by Turkey for the loss of nearly 45,000 lives over the past two decades.




    PressTV - 8 Turkish troops killed in PKK attack in southeast Turkey
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    Re: Bloody terrorists killed 8 Turkish soldiers

    pkk had been corrupted 10 years ago that led these attacks to decrease ,but after this miserable government obtained this country ,pkk was regarded as a collocutor.it is a shame.

    this action made these killers spoilt and encouraged them to kill more people........
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    Re: Bloody terrorists killed 8 Turkish soldiers

    My knowledge of Turkey politics is extremely limited but if a group attacks soldiers not civilians they are not terrorist they are insurgents or gorilla fighters or some other term which escapes me at the moment.

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    Re: Bloody terrorists killed 8 Turkish soldiers

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    My knowledge of Turkey politics is extremely limited but if a group attacks soldiers not civilians they are not terrorist they are insurgents or gorilla fighters or some other term which escapes me at the moment.
    maybe ,but pkk also kills our civilians ,but the world media doesnt talk about it very much ,lastly a few months ago they bombed Ankara streets and many people were killed at this attack.2 years ago ,they bombed the most crowded street of Antalya(my city) and again lots of civilians were killed.

    we cant say they are guerilla...


    i remember ,when ı was in Ankara 10 years ago ,these bloody organization had bombed the people standing in front of Mcdonalds and i had walked around there only one hour before this attack happened.if i were a little late,i could be dead now.
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    Re: Bloody terrorists killed 8 Turkish soldiers

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    maybe ,but pkk also kills our civilians ,but the world media doesnt talk about it very much ,lastly a few months ago they bombed Ankara streets and many people were killed at this attack.2 years ago ,they bombed the most crowded street of Antalya(my city) and again lots of civilians were killed.

    we cant say they are guerilla...


    i remember ,when ı was in Ankara 10 years ago ,these bloody organization had bombed the people standing in front of Mcdonalds and i had walked around there only one hour before this attack happened.if i were a little late,i could be dead now.
    If they target civilians they are terrorist. I am not by any means supporting terrorism but it has been practiced as long as man has warred. In America the US Calvary slaughtered women and children in attacks on villages and the Indians attacked white settlers in an attempt to scare whites away from settling on Indian land. In Roman times entire cities were slaughtered, every living thing was put to the sword to scare other cultures into submission. It's a wacky world.

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    Re: Bloody terrorists killed 8 Turkish soldiers

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If they target civilians they are terrorist. I am not by any means supporting terrorism but it has been practiced as long as man has warred. In America the US Calvary slaughtered women and children in attacks on villages and the Indians attacked white settlers in an attempt to scare whites away from settling on Indian land. In Roman times entire cities were slaughtered, every living thing was put to the sword to scare other cultures into submission. It's a wacky world.
    this world is always wacky because of humans.
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    Re: Bloody terrorists killed 8 Turkish soldiers

    Violence should always be the last resort, where typically these types of groups do not exhaust all diplomatic options before going for the kill. While I understand that worldwide people have gripes there should always be a dialogue when possible. Oh, and insurgents can also be terrorists as can guerilla fighters, it's about the intent of the violence, if it is specifically targeted to cause fear and submission it is considered a terrorist act. I don't know enough about this situation but it does seem these soldiers were killed to send a message, it's quite possible the PKK could be considered a terrorist group if the intention was to use coercion.
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    Re: Bloody terrorists killed 8 Turkish soldiers

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    maybe ,but pkk also kills our civilians ,but the world media doesnt talk about it very much ,lastly a few months ago they bombed Ankara streets and many people were killed at this attack.2 years ago ,they bombed the most crowded street of Antalya(my city) and again lots of civilians were killed.

    we cant say they are guerilla...
    For the record the PKK denied responsibility for this attack TURKEY - Police hunt for suspects behind Ankara bombing I wouldnt see the point in facilitating an attack and then denying responsibility, one would have thought that would defeat the object. Its true to say the the PKK has lacked clear leadership since its leader was arrested, so its possible that the pkk issuing the denial isnt the pkk behind the attack but i wouldnt rule out anything more sininster.

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    Re: Bloody terrorists killed 8 Turkish soldiers

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    For the record the PKK denied responsibility for this attack TURKEY - Police hunt for suspects behind Ankara bombing I wouldnt see the point in facilitating an attack and then denying responsibility, one would have thought that would defeat the object. Its true to say the the PKK has lacked clear leadership since its leader was arrested, so its possible that the pkk issuing the denial isnt the pkk behind the attack but i wouldnt rule out anything more sininster.
    red ,only pkk bombs our civillians.some leftist ones such as dhkpc just attack the policemen.islamist ones attack Ataturkist academicians.so only pkk is responsible for these attacks.
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    Re: Bloody terrorists killed 8 Turkish soldiers

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    For the record the PKK denied responsibility for this attack TURKEY - Police hunt for suspects behind Ankara bombing I wouldnt see the point in facilitating an attack and then denying responsibility, one would have thought that would defeat the object. Its true to say the the PKK has lacked clear leadership since its leader was arrested, so its possible that the pkk issuing the denial isnt the pkk behind the attack but i wouldnt rule out anything more sininster.
    Eh, plausible deniability is yet another tool. Not saying you're wrong but if my object were to create chaos and fear I would look at what tools I had at my disposal, if people had reason to believe that a group I was affiliated with and was sure said group carried out the attack, but I could get authorities to waste resources based on a denial why not do it?(Speaking as a tactician there, not necessarily any other goal with that musing)
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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