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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Of course the OP is incorrect. It has been shown time and time again, nobody that wants to vote would be disenfranchised.

    What is funny is people that deny voter fraud occurs, or that say it has zero effect on the outcome of elections. Look at all of history and voting, it is full of fraud, and we are no so special that it does not happen here.
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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    [...] a school photo ID plus a Social Security card [...] is insufficient in:
    * Georgia, [...]
    Are you ****ing daft?
    From your own source under acceptable forms of ID under new legislation:
    GEORGIA
    Georgia driver’s license, even if expired
    ID card issued by the state of Georgia or the federal government
    Free voter ID card issued by the state or county
    U.S. passport
    Valid employee ID card containing a photograph from any branch, department, agency, or entity of the U.S. Government, Georgia, or any county, municipality, board, authority or other entity of this state
    Valid U.S. military identification card
    Valid tribal photo ID
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    * Indiana, [...]
    INDIANA
    Specific forms of ID are not listed in statute. ID must be issued by the state of Indiana or the U.S. government and must show the following:
    Name of individual to whom it was issued, which must conform to the individual's registration record
    Photo of the person to whom it was issued
    Expiration date (if it is expired, it must have an expiration date after the most recent general election; military IDs are exempted from the requirement that ID bear an expiration date)
    Must be issued by the United States or the state of Indiana
    Obviously you are addressing the wrong person. With respect to Georgia, if you want to argue that a Social Security card is an ID card, I suggest you confirm that with the state of Georgia. You are wrong about all the other states as well, not shown here for brevity, since they all require a gov't issued photo ID card (which a student photo ID, or a Social Security card, is not).
    Last edited by Karl; 06-19-12 at 10:40 AM.

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Then you've never had a job.

    Hiring Employees
    Maybe he works under the table, is an illegal alien or maybe he has had the same job before 1986 and his employer just forget to ask him to submit a ID.
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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Obviously you are addressing the wrong person. With respect to Georgia, if you want to argue that a Social Security card is an ID card, I suggest you confirm that with the state of Georgia. You are wrong about all the other states as well, not shown here for brevity, since they all require a gov't issued photo ID card (which a student photo ID, or a Social Security card, is not).
    I think you might want to check who the issuing agency is for university ID cards. If its a state agency, then it qualifies as a state issued ID card. Some are, some aren't.
    Secretary of State : Election Division: Photo ID Law
    A student ID from an Indiana State school may only be used if it meets all of the 4 criteria specified above. A student ID from a private institution may not be used for voting purposes. For more Information for College Students click here.
    Criteria as follows:
    1. Display your photo

    2. Display your name, and the name must conform to your voter registration record. Conform does not mean identical. Below are examples of names that would conform to "Robert John Crew"

    ■Robert John Crew
    ■Robert J. Crew
    ■Robert Crew
    ■R. John Crew
    ■R. J. Crew

    ■Bob John Crew
    ■Bob J. Crew
    ■Bob Crew
    ■John Crew
    ■J. Crew


    3. Display an expiration date and either be current or have expired sometime after the date of the last General Election (November 2, 2010)

    ■NOTE: An ID issued by the US Department of Defense, a branch of the uniformed services, the Merchant Marine, or the Indiana National Guard is not required to have an expiration date, or may state that the document has an "Indefinite" expiration date.


    4. Be issued by the State of Indiana or the U.S. government

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