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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post




    [/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT]The Victims of Voter ID Laws - YouTube


    .0007% (.007% cant remember which one). Wow.. These type of laws might do more harm than good!

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    You should already have an ID anyway, to work, to drive, to have a home....so pulling it out at the entrance to a poll isn't a big deal. Even my 8 & 11y/o sons have state issued IDs. Adults have no excuse.

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is true, for sure, even the libtards KNOW that. What you need to examine is WHY allowing a person to vote WITHOUT postive ID, defining not only who they are but where they live, allowing them to vote as ANYONE who they SAY that they are, and thus as many times as they can supply a name/address combination, that matches the voter registration records, is good or fair? IMHO, it is to allow the manufacturing of votes, that libtards SWEAR is not happening, to continue unchallenged. ;-)
    Department of Voter Registration
    CITY OF NEW YORK
    VOTER LICENSE APPLICATION SECTION LICENSE DIVISION ROOM 110A
    INSTRUCTIONS TO ALL VOTER LICENSE APPLICANTS


    The attached application MUST be type written and signed. Only the original application will be accepted. DO NOT SUBMIT A PHOTOCOPY. The application must be completely filled out and presented by you personally at the Voter Licensing Division.

    At the time you submit your application, you must furnish the items listed below that are applicable to you. You must submit original copies of certificates, licenses, etc. In addition, a legible photocopy of each item submitted must accompany the original or certified copy. (A copy certified by the issuing agency as true and complete is also acceptable in lieu of the original.) Your application will not be accepted without producing the required documents.

    1.
    Fees. Two (2) separate fees are required. These are payable by certified check, bank check, money order or
    credit card. All fees are non-refundable.
    – $340.00 - Made payable to New York City Department of Voter Registration
    – $ 91.50 - Made payable to New York City Department of Voter Registration


    2. Photographs. Two (2) recent color photographs of yourself. They should measure 1½ x 1½ inches and show you from the chest up. Do not wear any article of clothing or adornment that obscures your facial features.


    3. Birth Certificate. In lieu of your birth certificate, some other proof of your birth date, e.g., a military record, U.S. passport or baptismal certificate, must be submitted.


    4. Proof of Citizenship/Alien Registration. If you were born outside the United States, you must submit your naturalization papers or evidence of citizenship if derived from your parents. All other applicants born outside the United States must submit their Alien Registration Card. If you have lived in this country less than 7 years you must submit a good conduct certificate from your country of origin.


    5. Military Discharge. If you served in the armed forces of the United States, you must submit your separation papers (DD 214) and your discharge.


    6. Proof of Residence. You must submit proof of your present address. Proof may consist of, but is not limited to, a real estate tax bill, ownership shares in a cooperative or condominium, or a lease. You may also be requested to supply further documentation, i.e., a New York State Driver’s License, a New York State Income Tax Return, a Utility Bill, etc.


    7. A.) Arrest Information: If you were ever arrested, indicted or summonsed (other than parking violations) for any reason you must answer Yes to question-23 and submit a certificate of disposition showing the offense and the disposition. Also, you must submit a detailed statement describing the circumstances surrounding each arrest. YOU MUST DO THIS EVEN IF: the case was dismissed, the record sealed or the case nullified by operation of law. The New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services will report to The Department of Voter Registration every instance involving the arrest of an applicant. DO NOT rely on anyone’s representation that you need not list a previous arrest because it was sealed. If you were ever convicted or pleaded guilty to a felony, or a serious offense as defined in Penal Law Section 265.00(17), an original Certificate of Relief from Disabilities must be submitted.


    B.) Summons Information: If you have received a summons for other than a parking violation you must answer
    Yes to question-23. You must list the violation and disposition for each summons received.


    C.) Order of Protection: If you have ever had an Order of Protection or Restraining Order issued against you, or issued on your behalf against anyone, you must list the following information: Court of Issuance; Complainant’s or Respondent/Defendant’s name, including address and phone number; Complainant’s or Respondent/
    Defendant’s relationship to you; Reason for issuance of Order of Protection or Restraining Order.


    8. Letter of Necessity. All applicants for a Voter License and those seeking an opinion license for use in connection with their religious views MUST complete the Letter of Necessity found on page 3 of the application. NO SUBSTITUTES WILL BE ACCEPTED.


    9. You must bring your original social security card when you apply.
    Instructions to Voter License Applicants
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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You present this NYC madness as having to do with voting, yet it seems to be an application for a handgun permit, since I am sure that it is ILLEGAL to charge $431.50 to register to vote per the 24th amendment to our constitution. Only the 2nd amendment may be "infringed" by the states/cities, all other constitutional rights must be free, based on the current libtard "logic".
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    These type of laws might do more harm than good!
    With the current state of the American voting public ANY reduction in the number of people allowed to vote can only be classified as a good thing. When you're talking about bacteria, reducing it by 99% is always a good thing, even when you're getting rid of the good with the bad.

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    You present this NYC madness as having to do with voting, yet it seems to be an application for a handgun permit, since I am sure that it is ILLEGAL to charge $431.50 to register to vote per the 24th amendment to our constitution. Only the 2nd amendment may be "infringed" by the states/cities, all other constitutional rights must be free, based on the current libtard "logic".
    I present perspective.

    Look at the madness NYC requires to exercise one specifically enumerated constitutionally protected right, and compare that to our request that you simply flash your ID at the door when you go to exercise another.

    I've already modified the same PDF for later use in an abortion thread.

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I present perspective.

    Look at the madness NYC requires to exercise one specifically enumerated constitutionally protected right, and compare that to our request that you simply flash your ID at the door when you go to exercise another.

    I've already modified the same PDF for later use in an abortion thread.
    Oh, I agree 100% that the left is not about "fairness" or the least bit concrened about "the poor" or minorities, it would otherwise protest ALL laws that required a state issued photo ID, as they must ALL be equally a "discriminatory burden". The left is scared to death that manufacturing votes is not going to remain a viable election winning tactic. I cannot understand why the public accepts these CCW permit laws, or the Texas law that completely outlaws open handgun carry even WITH a CCW permit. The 2nd amendment is gone, yet the SCOTUS does not seem inclined to bring it back.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    I cannot agree with this premise, as I cannot see how this requirement victimizes anyone.

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Really, you had to show an ID when applying for a job? I've never had to. And I mean jobs in the legal field. Where there's millions of dollars at stake, not just burned fries. What jobs did you have to show an ID to apply for?
    Every job I have had has required that I have a ID/driver's license. They usually require it along with my SS card and birth certificate. What job are you working at where your employer did not require that you submit your ID/driver's license when you applied?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Explain how you have determined this.
    upsideguy is right regarding the fact that voting is a right.So this idea that voting is not a right is nonsense. That said it is a right that you can impose restrictions on which is why the below amendments state what you may not use to deny a citizen their right to vote.



    Suffrage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In the United States, suffrage is determined by the separate states, not federally (Wyoming being the first state to instill suffrage). However, the "right to vote" is expressly mentioned in five Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. These five Amendments limit the basis upon which the right to vote may be abridged or denied

    14th Amendment (1868): Regarding apportionment of Representatives.

    15th Amendment (1870): "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude."

    19th Amendment (1920): "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex."

    23rd Amendment (1961): provides that residents of the District of Columbia can vote for the President and Vice-President.

    24th Amendment (1964): "The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax."

    26th Amendment (1971): "The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age."
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Really, you had to show an ID when applying for a job? I've never had to.
    Then you've never had a job.

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