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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The only people who would be disenfranchised are illegals and those too stupid to go down to the DMV and get a ID.A ID is cheap and is required for getting a job,cashing a check, getting a loan, and many other things.
    Really, you had to show an ID when applying for a job? I've never had to. And I mean jobs in the legal field. Where there's millions of dollars at stake, not just burned fries. What jobs did you have to show an ID to apply for?

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Really, you had to show an ID when applying for a job? I've never had to. And I mean jobs in the legal field. Where there's millions of dollars at stake, not just burned fries. What jobs did you have to show an ID to apply for?
    Not applying for a job, getting a job. People don't usually get every job they apply for, after all.

    I'm assuming you've been at the same job since before 1986, then?

    The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 required that all new hires provide proof of their identity as well as elgibility to work in the United States. Proof of identity must then be documented on the I-9 form and signed by both the employee and the manager or HR person. It's the law.

    I find it very, very difficult to believe that employers in the legal field regulary break the law, so congratulations on your career longevity.

    USCIS - I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    The Obama campaign has been so psyched out by Romney infiltrators at their events they have resorted to checking IDs at the door. They want to allow people to vote without ID but you can't get into an Obama for President rally without ID. What's more important? Insuring only registered, legit citizens get to vote or protecting Obama from getting heckled or asked a tough question?

    President Barack Obama's presidential campaign checked the identification of the supporters attending Obama's "framing" event at Cuyahoga Community College today.

    The 1,500 supporters in attendance picked up tickets at campaign offices in Northeast Ohio beginning on Monday, though tickets to the event made no mention of an ID requirement.

    Jessica Kershaw, the Obama campaign's Ohio Press Secretary, confirmed in a statement to BuzzFeed that the campaign checked every supporter's identification at the door.

    "We checked every ID at the door to make sure it matched with the name on the ticket that supporters filled out," she said. "We did this for every person who came in."
    Obama Campaign Checks IDs At The Door

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by GJ Flash View Post
    [...] The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 required that all new hires provide proof of their identity as well as elgibility to work in the United States. Proof of identity must then be documented on the I-9 form and signed by both the employee and the manager or HR person. It's the law.

    I find it very, very difficult to believe that employers in the legal field regulary break the law, so congratulations on your career longevity.

    USCIS - I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification
    Trouble is, ID that is acceptable for the I-9 is insufficient for some new state ID laws.

    For example, a school photo ID plus a Social Security card is sufficient for the I-9. It is insufficient in:
    * Georgia,
    * Indiana,
    * Mississippi (new law awaiting USDOJ approval),
    * South Carolina,
    * Tennessee,
    * Texas (new law awaiting USDOJ approval).

    Red states all. So... what's good enough to get you a job by federal standards is not good enough to get you into the voting booth in some red states (with more coming, I'd imagine, as soon as the lobbyist-funded ALEC gets back to work).

    Voter ID: State Requirements

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    The Obama campaign has been so psyched out by Romney infiltrators at their events they have resorted to checking IDs at the door. [...]
    You want them to let the hecklers in so they can shout down the president while he's giving a speech? Really?

    The latest right wing shenanigans -- like the Rose Garden heckler -- show just how immature their ideology really is. But please, I'm sure there is a thread or six on this somewhere here, please go find one of those threads and don't derail this one.
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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    You want them to let the hecklers in so they can shout down the president while he's giving a speech? Really?

    The latest right wing shenanigans -- like the Rose Garden heckler -- show just how immature their ideology really is. But please, I'm sure there is a thread or six on this somewhere here, please go find one of those threads and don't derail this one.
    I've yet to see a Romney supporter heckle Obama while he's giiving a speech. But were you upset when homosexuals were heckling Obama speeches prior to repeal of DADT? They proved that he can't take any heat, BO totally caved. And if you want to discuss immature ideology nothing compares to the crowd at Obama's inauguration serenading President Bush with their chants of "na, na, na, hey, hey, hey...goodbye". Real classy crowd.

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Let's get real, Republicans do not want, nor have they every wanted broad participation in elections... it just does not favor them.
    Id examine the turnout in Wisconsin and the result before you say that.

    Republicans showed up record numbers, as did Dems. Barrett still lost.

    That would make you wrong. It also makes your narrative wrong. Trot on back to the DNC and get a new one.

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Trouble is, ID that is acceptable for the I-9 is insufficient for some new state ID laws.

    For example, a school photo ID plus a Social Security card is sufficient for the I-9. It is insufficient in:
    * Georgia,
    * Indiana,
    * Mississippi (new law awaiting USDOJ approval),
    * South Carolina,
    * Tennessee,
    * Texas (new law awaiting USDOJ approval).

    Red states all. So... what's good enough to get you a job by federal standards is not good enough to get you into the voting booth in some red states (with more coming, I'd imagine, as soon as the lobbyist-funded ALEC gets back to work).

    Voter ID: State Requirements
    Are you ****ing daft?
    From your own source under acceptable forms of ID under new legislation:
    GEORGIA
    Georgia driver’s license, even if expired
    ID card issued by the state of Georgia or the federal government
    Free voter ID card issued by the state or county
    U.S. passport
    Valid employee ID card containing a photograph from any branch, department, agency, or entity of the U.S. Government, Georgia, or any county, municipality, board, authority or other entity of this state
    Valid U.S. military identification card
    Valid tribal photo ID
    INDIANA
    Specific forms of ID are not listed in statute. ID must be issued by the state of Indiana or the U.S. government and must show the following:
    Name of individual to whom it was issued, which must conform to the individual's registration record
    Photo of the person to whom it was issued
    Expiration date (if it is expired, it must have an expiration date after the most recent general election; military IDs are exempted from the requirement that ID bear an expiration date)
    Must be issued by the United States or the state of Indiana
    MISSISSIPPI
    Mississippi's new constitutional amendment simply says "government-issued photo identification." Implementing legislation and/or administrative rules will be necessary to define precisely what this means.
    SOUTH CAROLINA
    South Carolina driver's license
    Other form of photo ID issued by the SC Dept. of Motor Vehicles
    Passport
    Military ID bearing a photo issued by the federal government
    South Carolina voter registration card with a photo
    TENNESSEE
    TN driver’s license
    Valid photo ID card issued by any state
    Valid photo ID license issued by TN Dept. of Safety
    Valid U.S. passport
    Valid U.S. military ID with photo
    TEXAS
    Driver's license
    Election identification certificate
    Dept. of Public Safety personal ID card
    U.S. military ID
    U.S. citizenship certificate
    U.S. passport
    License to carry a concealed handgun issued by the Dept. of Public Safety

    All of the above must include a photo of the voter. With the exception of the certificate of citizenship, these forms of ID cannot be expired, or cannot have expired more than 60 days before the election.
    Either you didnt read your own source or you are completely full of it. Or possibly both.

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    When buying a gun at any registered gun dealer what happens? You need to present valid ID. Owning a gun is a right. So if it is required to show a photo ID in order to buy a gun...why shouldn't a photo ID be required to vote?

    And if you don't think that illegals vote you may want to rethink that...

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    Re: The Victims of Voter ID Laws

    I dont see a problem with Showing ID to vote...what I have a problem with is whos pushing it and why and why after all these 200 yrs.
    What rick scott is doing is not voter id...its voter purge and purge as many of the opposition as he can...Im against what hes doing and the way hes doing it.

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