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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    If they pull you over without probable cause why not? Stopping you just to look for something is not within their scope of powers.
    Forgetting about the scope of powers... are you saying if the police did make a mistake by intruding into your car because of suspicious activity , you would then be prepare to shoot?

    don't be ridiculous!

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Forgetting about the scope of powers... are you saying if the police did make a mistake by intruding into your car because of suspicious activity , you would then be prepare to shoot?

    don't be ridiculous!
    If someone just starts looking through my vehicle and doesn't have the courtesy of telling me why they will be assumed an assailant. If an officer explains the situation such as matches a description and he needs answers, or if I have a violation such as a burned out light, crossed a line, or anything that fits probable cause he will get the fullest of cooperation. I believe in being a good citizen, but not a victim.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Forgetting about the scope of powers... are you saying if the police did make a mistake by intruding into your car because of suspicious activity , you would then be prepare to shoot?

    don't be ridiculous!
    If someone was at my door, I would use common sense. But I have to tell 'ya, if THIS guy is at my door, I am gonna shoot him full of holes without asking any questions at all:

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If someone was at my door, I would use common sense. But I have to tell 'ya, if THIS guy is at my door, I am gonna shoot him full of holes without asking any questions at all:

    You mean Batman, or Adam West?
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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If someone was at my door, I would use common sense. But I have to tell 'ya, if THIS guy is at my door, I am gonna shoot him full of holes without asking any questions at all:



    Bless your heart

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    You mean Batman, or Adam West?
    Whichever one is acting crazy like that. LOL.
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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Forgetting about the scope of powers... are you saying if the police did make a mistake by intruding into your car because of suspicious activity , you would then be prepare to shoot?

    don't be ridiculous!
    I think a reasonable person would give a cop the benefit of the doubt when the cop appears to be acting in good faith, even if it turns out that the cop was in the wrong.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Forgetting about the scope of powers... are you saying if the police did make a mistake by intruding into your car because of suspicious activity , you would then be prepare to shoot?

    don't be ridiculous!

    . "A person is not justified in using deadly force against a public servant whom the person knows or reasonably should know is a public servant unless the force is reasonably necessary to prevent serious bodily injury to the person or a third person." A cursory vehicle stop does not seem to fit within these parameters.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    By the populace you mean yourself and other like-minded individuals? After all, there would be no need to oust if elections could solve these problems for you? I wonder why the minority are always so loud in their opinion that they speak for the whole, personally I believe its because they know they truly don't speak for everyone.
    By populace I mean populace:

    pop·u·lace
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    1.
    the common people of a community, nation, etc., as distinguished from the higher classes.
    2.
    all the inhabitants of a place; population.

    This is all very nice rhetoric, but its just a perspective.
    The rhetoric about the social contract I stated? It's actually a huge part of American history.

    Even you admit that from a pragmatic and realistic perspective that police are different than normal citizens
    All I said is that their authority is granted by the people, and when they breach the social contract with the people, they reap what they've sown.

    hell you listed yourself several reasons why in your opinion. Heck you dismiss the high speed cash exactly not by citing law, but by citing that its stupid and reckless in your opinion, not something we are arguing.
    I dismissed it because you brought it up.

    All I am saying, is that under the current laws police have special privileges that ordinary citizens do not have. You may not agree with these laws or what police do, but these laws do exist which give police special authorities and powers where ordinary citizens do not have them, that's all I'm saying.
    That's the problem. Police are ordinary citizens. The only "special" citizens are elected officials. Even when I was in the Army, I never viewed myself as being above the US citizenry, because I wasn't. I enlisted into service to protect them, and the Constitution. The key word their is bolded, because it's a very important distinction. I, just like cops are, was paid by the taxpayer. My job that everyone in the US paid me to do was to protect them. Not harm, not beat, or arrest, nor kill them. I was at the service of the United States, not the other way around. The same applies to cops. Some get it, that's cool, I got no beef with those ones. The ones that don't, **** 'em. They get what they get, because actions have consequences, and karma is a bitch.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    What's the next step ??????? You are able to shoot a police when they poke their heads inside your car window?????????
    I wouldn't shoot any other person who stuck their head in my window, so no.

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