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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    They are not the same as any other citizen, the law provides them with certain privileges that allow them to do things which are otherwise illegal for other citizens, for example to make an arrest
    Any citizen can make an arrest, they just have to hold for police to process. That is not a special priveledge, even for the operations of surveillence, evidence gathering, or detainment officers still have laws they must follow, such as obtaining a warrant unless there is a compelling reason to act or if a crime is within plain view.
    or to enter into a high speed chase without being charged with reckless driving themselves.
    Many places have an emergency maximum speed, and these speeds are only allowed under specific circumstances. However, in an emergency most civilian use of speed is dismissed in a court of law. It's not a truly special authority power.
    Its similar to laws which grant Soldiers the ability to do certain things that other citizens cannot do, for example fight and kill in nation's wars.

    Of course, cops still must have within the boundaries of the law but they are treated slightly differently.
    Police have a slightly larger scope of protection, but only when their authority is not exceeded.
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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    They must be joking in Indiana


    “Indiana has become the first state to legally allow residents to shoot at police if they feel their property is being illegally breached by an officer.”

    New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police - National Coast to Coast Radio | Examiner.com
    I wish my state would get a law like this for DEA choppers, BANG!

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Seriously guys...bash cops all you want, doesnt bother me in the least really, Ive been retired a long time and ive been through the ups and downs and Ive been through all the arguments about how ALL cops suck and ALL cops abuse power and la dee dah dee dah...and you cant tell people with that mentality to go research how many 911 calls there are in one year...how m any arrests are made in one year, how many people saved in one year and crimes prevented, then count the mistakes and abuses of power and excessive use of force...and they would be so minimal compared to the whole picture you would be shocked...but you read 2, 3, 5, 10 stories all blown out of proportion and conclude cops suck...most cops that you read about that are ACCUSED or abuses...never get convicted by jury trials

    So have at it..lol
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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ever hear my favorite one about the BATF storm troopers (yeah this case is what called Congressman Dingell-D Mich to call them jackbooted thugs) raided some guy's house who had a legitimate and licensed class three gun collection. They stomped the guy's cat to death, cut open the safe and left the front door open with the safe exposed when they left

    BTW The weaver case was a classic case where the citizen (Keven Harris) was found to justifiably killed an agent and since the Davidians were acquitted of murder-that too
    Don't get me started on the Weaver thing. That was murder by ATF agents and we all lost alot of freedom that day, not to mention the BS way they entrapped him into breaking a law in the first place so they could go kill him for nothing more than his politics.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Don't get me started on the Weaver thing. That was murder by ATF agents and we all lost alot of freedom that day, not to mention thje BS way they entrapped him into breaking a law in the first place so they could go kill him for nothing more than his politics.
    in all fairness the murders were committed first by USMS deputies (DM shot sammy in the back) and FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi. Larry Potts should have been hung for giving the illegal orders to shoot unarmed people

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Seriously guys...bash cops all you want, doesnt bother me in the least really, Ive been retired a long time and ive been through the ups and downs and Ive been through all the arguments about how ALL cops suck and ALL cops abuse power and la dee dah dee dah...and you cant tell people with that mentality to go research how many 911 calls there are in one year...how m any arrests are made in one year, how many people saved in one year and crimes prevented, then count the mistakes and abuses of power and excessive use of force...and they would be so minimal compared to the whole picture you would be shocked...but you read 2, 3, 5, 10 stories all blown out of proportion and conclude cops suck...most cops that you read about that are ACCUSED or abuses...never get convicted by jury trials

    So have at it..lol
    Hey, some of my best friends are cops. Don't look at me.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Seriously guys...bash cops all you want, doesnt bother me in the least really, Ive been retired a long time and ive been through the ups and downs and Ive been through all the arguments about how ALL cops suck and ALL cops abuse power and la dee dah dee dah...and you cant tell people with that mentality to go research how many 911 calls there are in one year...how m any arrests are made in one year, how many people saved in one year and crimes prevented, then count the mistakes and abuses of power and excessive use of force...and they would be so minimal compared to the whole picture you would be shocked...but you read 2, 3, 5, 10 stories all blown out of proportion and conclude cops suck...most cops that you read about that are ACCUSED or abuses...never get convicted by jury trials

    So have at it..lol
    Most cops are good people. Most prosecutors are honest and seek justice. Most homeowners aren't going to be victimized by corrupt, stupid or lazy cops being driven by dishonest or nefarious prosecutors. But when it happens, the victims ought to be able to kill in defense

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Seriously guys...bash cops all you want, doesnt bother me in the least really, Ive been retired a long time and ive been through the ups and downs and Ive been through all the arguments about how ALL cops suck and ALL cops abuse power and la dee dah dee dah...and you cant tell people with that mentality to go research how many 911 calls there are in one year...how m any arrests are made in one year, how many people saved in one year and crimes prevented, then count the mistakes or abuses of power and excessive use of force...and they would be so minimal compared to the whole picture you would be shocked...but you read 2, 3, 5, 10 storie all blown out of proporition and conclude cops suck...most cops that you read about that are ACCUSED or abuses...never get convicted by JURIES decisions.

    So have at it..lol
    I'm not bashing police as a whole. Most officers are very professional, do their best to uphold their duties, and it's a thankless occupation. I have a major problem with the minority of bad officers who think that the badge gives them some kind of power over the citizenry. The no-knock warrant is fine in certain circumstances such as violent parole violators, drug crimes in heavily armed structures, etc. but if I have unpaid parking tickets or no prior history of flight, violence, etc. for god's sake just knock on the door and be polite, I promise to be civil.

    The other thing is, for a breach please double check an address. Or get a warrant, not unreasonable requests.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    It's amazing how tough those jackbooted thugs are when they have large numbers and weapons not allowed to their prey. Every one of those agents deserved a slug to the face.

    Better yet.... abolish the Police Force altogether and let the cannibals take over! how about that huh?

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    I think that encouraging more violence between police and regular citizens is a bad idea. Both sides (and they really shouldn't be viewed as different sides in the first place) should be slower to use their weapons, not quicker.
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