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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I remember a story of a ninety something year old lady with severe impediments was shot dead a few years back because the police did a "no-knock" breach of her property, I don't remember all the details but the police just kicked in, she was startled, grabbed her gun, and they shot.
    ever hear my favorite one about the BATF storm troopers (yeah this case is what called Congressman Dingell-D Mich to call them jackbooted thugs) raided some guy's house who had a legitimate and licensed class three gun collection. They stomped the guy's cat to death, cut open the safe and left the front door open with the safe exposed when they left

    BTW The weaver case was a classic case where the citizen (Keven Harris) was found to justifiably killed an agent and since the Davidians were acquitted of murder-that too

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ever hear my favorite one about the BATF storm troopers (yeah this case is what called Congressman Dingell-D Mich to call them jackbooted thugs) raided some guy's house who had a legitimate and licensed class three gun collection. They stomped the guy's cat to death, cut open the safe and left the front door open with the safe exposed when they left
    Don't think I've heard that one. Not surprised though, some of the federals have a severe Judge Dredd complex.

    BTW The weaver case was a classic case where the citizen (Keven Harris) was found to justifiably killed an agent and since the Davidians were acquitted of murder-that too
    Somewhat familiar with the case, to me any authority figure is protected while justifiably upholding the law, once they are outside of it they get no more protection than any other assailant.
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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Here is one report but its about another case I also remember


    Abuses of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Good, **** 'em. They get a badge, and they think they're god, so hopefully this will put them in their place. A cop is no different than any other citizen.
    They are not the same as any other citizen, the law provides them with certain privileges that allow them to do things which are otherwise illegal for other citizens, for example to make an arrest or to enter into a high speed chase without being charged with reckless driving themselves. Its similar to laws which grant Soldiers the ability to do certain things that other citizens cannot do, for example fight and kill in nation's wars.

    Of course, cops still must have within the boundaries of the law but they are treated slightly differently.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Here is one report but its about another case I also remember


    Abuses of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms
    It's amazing how tough those jackbooted thugs are when they have large numbers and weapons not allowed to their prey. Every one of those agents deserved a slug to the face.
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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there have been dozens of cases where the police have raided the wrong dwellings when they misread addresses on warrants. In one case, the police started breaking down a door late at night before announcing they were cops. The startled homeowner appeared with a weapon since there were numerous home invasion robberies at the time and was shot by the cops. It was about a 5 million dollar mistake the tax payers had to pay.

    If some cop breaks into your home in the middle of the night without proper authority you should kill him if he threatens you
    Sure theres been mistakes...I was on a raid where we were sent to the wrong address...thankfully no one got hurt and we didnt even bust down the door just as we were getting into position to hammer it...it opens and theres a teenage girl with her mouth open to the floor frozen..
    The few mistakes that are made are no reason to assure the cops arent going to respond to you calling for help, with a asinine law like that.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ever hear my favorite one about the BATF storm troopers (yeah this case is what called Congressman Dingell-D Mich to call them jackbooted thugs) raided some guy's house who had a legitimate and licensed class three gun collection. They stomped the guy's cat to death, cut open the safe and left the front door open with the safe exposed when they left

    BTW The weaver case was a classic case where the citizen (Keven Harris) was found to justifiably killed an agent and since the Davidians were acquitted of murder-that too
    And he's right. Come over here to Baytown, and you'll see the same **** every day. Cops pushing people around, ****ing with traffic by playing with the stupid lights on their stupid cars. Total abuse of power, and complete waste of local tax dollars. Cops are out of control, they think they're above everyone else, even the law itself, and something has be done about it. Knocking them down a peg with laws like this, imo, is the best solution.Take away the immunities that build their megalomaniacal delusions, and they'll realize real quick that they're nobodies, just like the rest of us "regular ****s". We started a revolution over far less.
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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Here is one report but its about another case I also remember


    Abuses of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms

    Heres one report...lol...out of hundreds of thousands of answered 911 calls ...the mistakes are incredibly minimal...but they get lots of hay in the media....Do you people really believe that cops made those mistakes intentionally...sheesh

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Sure theres been mistakes...I was on a raid where we were sent to the wrong address...thankfully no one got hurt and we didnt even bust down the door just as we were getting into position to hammer it...it opens and theres a teenage girl with her mouth open to the floor frozen..
    The few mistakes that are made are no reason to assure the cops arent going to respond to you calling for help, with a asinine law like that.
    I noted merely that if a cop breaks into your home due to mistake, stupidity or malice and threatens you with death, you ought to kill him and take your chances in court rather than get shot to death. If the cops had the wrong house or a bad warrant, its gonna be hard for the cops to prosecute someone who shoots someone breaking into their home in the middle of the night

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Heres one report...lol...out of hundreds of thousands of answered 911 calls ...the mistakes are incredibly minimal...but they get lots of hay in the media....Do you people really believe that cops made those mistakes intentionally...sheesh
    since I have defended a major league police department-yes sometimes the "mistakes" are intentional.

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