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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If some punk is running from the cops and tried to seek refuge in my home, 1. I'm going to kill him, 2. I want the cops there asap because I have a criminal in my home, and 3. the punk should want the cops there asap also because I'm going to kill him.

    I'm not going to shoot the cops. I'm going to open the door, flag the cops down and serve them coffee while we wait for the coroner.

    But this new Law say that residents can shoot police

    so what is your position here? are you against it or not

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I am with you Mya....

    There was no need for this is the 4th Amendment was followed to begin with.
    Don't see the problem with a law the reaffirms an Amendment.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Shot him dead.

    No question asked.
    True story, one I've told on this forum before:

    On or about March 2006, SD, I was being the good Mr. Mom collage student, watching our son while my wife was at work. A group of young men beat someone to death in a parking lot near my apartment. Unaware of the assault at the time, I went upstairs to put my son's laundry away, and just outside my son's bedroom window I see some punk frantically trying to open the window to enter. The window was right above my son's crib where my son was sleeping.

    In a surprisingly calm state, I drew my Glock, went right up to the window, put it in the punk's face, finger on the trigger, and said "wrong house".

    The punk's face went white, he jumped down (didn't climb down, he jumped), and the cops caught him as he ran across the playground.

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    If a cop saw him trying to enter my home and had, say, smashed a window to get in....the very LAST thing on my mind is shooting the cop. Cops are the good guys. If anything, had a cop entered my home, I would have grabbed my son and let the cop deal with the punk.
    Last edited by Jerry; 06-14-12 at 02:48 AM.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    But this new Law say that residents can shoot police

    so what is your position here? are you against it or not
    The only thing the law does is protect someone in court if that happens during an illegal police action and self defense is required. It doesn't mean that someone can just pop off and kill an officer, if that were the case I would be in absolute agreement with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Don't see the problem with a law the reaffirms an Amendment.
    The only problem I see is that a law needed to pass to reaffirm what is already there. That makes me concerned about where the legal system is, a red flag if you will.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    True story, one I've told on this forum before:

    On or about March 2006, SD, I was being the good Mr. Mom collage student, watching our son while my wife was at work. A group of young men beat someone to death in a parking lot near my apartment. I didn't see the assault but I saw the body before the ambulance arrived. I went upstairs to put my son's laundry away, and just outside my son's bedroom window I see some punk frantically trying to open the window to enter. The window was right above my son's crib.

    In a surprisingly calm state, I drew my Glock 36, went right up to the window, put it in the punk's face, finger on the trigger, and said "wrong house".

    The punk's face went white, he jumped down (didn't climb down, he jumped), and the cops caught him as he ran across the playground.

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    If a cop saw him trying to enter my home and had, say, smashed a window to get in....the very LAST thing on my mind is shooting the cop.


    Cool.


    Do you agree with new Indiana Law or not.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Absolutely. As a matter of fact they would ask for the weapon to be turned over for examination, I have no problem with that, I'll have it unchambered with magazines out and on the table for collection. I just want it back when I'm cleared for eliminating the scumbag.
    Absolutely. Police can always expect my full cooperation.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Absolutely. Police can always expect my full cooperation.

    now we understand each other!

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I remember a story of a ninety something year old lady with severe impediments was shot dead a few years back because the police did a "no-knock" breach of her property, I don't remember all the details but the police just kicked in, she was startled, grabbed her gun, and they shot.
    How would the new law change the outcome?

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Hikertrash View Post
    How would the new law change the outcome?
    The outcome isn't going to change, what does change is the court defense if the person at home was legitimately in fear for their lives and the police didn't have a legal right to be in the house. Criminals would have no defense nor would suspects under this law.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: New Indiana gun law allows residents to shoot police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    now we understand each other!
    I would have to be pushed very, very far in order to ever draw a gun on a cop. I can't even express the dire circumstances that would have to exist.

    I think your average gun owner is a reasonable person, and I think that if anyone came here and started spouting off about rights and big government, that they're just playing silly debate games and venting their daily frustrations though this thread. 99% of the time people just say things to either feel better or to get a rise out of you. No law-abiding citizen is going to shoot a cop for sticking their head in a car window, or for trespassing. I think your typical gun owner is like me and would even knowingly allow a cop to commit some level of crime against them and then call their lawyer afterwords, instead of pull a gun on the cop at the time, even if the citizen were well within their rights to do so.

    The other side of that coin is the rare bad apple who abuses his authority as a police officer to commit crime. This is an extreme minority among police, and even among those rare few who would ever abuse their authority, fewer actually do, and of those, fewer still do anything which would warrant lethal force. I would be very surprised if this law applies to even 1 incident in the next 10 years.
    Last edited by Jerry; 06-14-12 at 03:13 AM.

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