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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

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    You know I can't do that. ....
    why, cause it doesn't exist?

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

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    why, cause it doesn't exist?
    Do you really think everything people find messed up in the country there will be threads about on this forum?

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Do you really think everything people find messed up in the country there will be threads about on this forum?
    no, but avoiding some topics while harping on others that are related, shows peoples' bias.

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

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    Tell me where the trouble is then? Do you agree with me or not?
    I have no idea. You won't say what your position is in sufficient detail for me to even guess if I agree with it.

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    I see. You're confused into thinking that free speech actually comes from the first amendment. Well, I'm sorry, but it doesn't.
    That has nothing to do with anything I said.

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    1. Positive rights detail violating rights. How exactly is that hard to understand? Am I to believe you think the right to your property is not violated because the right to an education?

    2. They are created objects by people that usually detail labor and money to exist.
    What?
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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    IMO what this really is is just an attempt to build awareness of the issue nationwide. It's the same thing as when San Francisco banned happy meals. What they're really trying to do is to get people everywhere to think about whether it is really a good idea to feed that stuff to their kids. And it's successful. Oddly, I lived in San Francisco during the happy meal ban and now I live in New York. In both cases, the people were fine with it. Really they didn't care either way. They're both wealthy cities. Not a lot of super jumbo sodas or happy meals were being consumed in either place anyways. That isn't the point. The point was getting the national media talking about it.

    I don't know what the ultimate solution is, but something needs to change with portion sizes in the US. It really is totally out of control. I used to travel to Europe for work a lot. If I was there for a couple weeks, consistently, the first few days I'd feel a little hungry because the portions were smaller. But I'd get over it pretty quick. And guess what, people there are much, much, skinnier. Then I'd come back and the first thing you're struck by is how fat everybody is. It really is kind of startling when you leave and come back. And for a few days I'd feel like I had too much food after every meal. But then I'd get used to that again and resume fattening up.... And the portions here are getting bigger and bigger every year. The health care costs created and the impact on our quality of life are enormous. We do need to do something. Maybe not bans, but something needs to change.
    I don't necessarily disagree that it is primarily about raising awareness, but... as a matter of principle I reject their methods. As a matter of concept I am all for raising awareness and education. No issue there. There are other... and more proper, IMO... ways to raise awareness rather than restrict people's freedoms to make their own choices regarding an otherwise legal activity that has pretty much zero chance of negatively impacting others (such as drinking and driving could, for example).
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I don't necessarily disagree that it is primarily about raising awareness, but... as a matter of principle I reject their methods. As a matter of concept I am all for raising awareness and education. No issue there. There are other... and more proper, IMO... ways to raise awareness rather than restrict people's freedoms to make their own choices regarding an otherwise legal activity that has pretty much zero chance of negatively impacting others (such as drinking and driving could, for example).
    I agree to an extent. But you also kinda just gotta do what you can do. The Republicans in the House just a couple months ago made a huge deal about attacking some education program focused on teaching kids about eating fast food in moderation. The right ways to do it cost money. And, during the whole flap about San Francisco banning happy meals, McDonalds actually did make some changes. If forget what exactly. They added a couple healthier things to the menus nationwide and something like changed the oil they use or something.
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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no, but avoiding some topics while harping on others that are related, shows peoples' bias.
    Just because we don't spend all day bringing up every little topic that could be comparable to this one doesn't mean we don't have a problem with other issues that are comparable.

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I have no idea. You won't say what your position is in sufficient detail for me to even guess if I agree with it.
    Then listen up.

    That has nothing to do with anything I said.
    How does it not?

    What?
    Did I stutter? Respond to one and two.

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I don't necessarily disagree that it is primarily about raising awareness, but... as a matter of principle I reject their methods. As a matter of concept I am all for raising awareness and education. No issue there. There are other... and more proper, IMO... ways to raise awareness rather than restrict people's freedoms to make their own choices regarding an otherwise legal activity that has pretty much zero chance of negatively impacting others (such as drinking and driving could, for example).
    Why should the government be in the business of raising awareness on things like this? Do you not agree that is a community effort?

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why should the government be in the business of raising awareness on things like this? Do you not agree that is a community effort?
    Does it really offend you that the government, made up of people and fellow citizens, might do something to encourage (not mandate or coerce) wise behavior in it's fellow citizens?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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