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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Yes, you and I are, but you and I id bet a donut are already healthy eaters and we are on a discussion forum
    Personally I do not think the big gulp ban will change a single bad eating New Yorkers mind...but hey...I really hope im wrong this time
    I actually eat terribly unhealthy stuff. I'm part of the target audience for the awareness raising

    I think stuff like this has some effect. It's like advertising. Everybody thinks that what they purchase is rarely, if ever, affected by ads. But when they go to the store, more often than not, they buy the products they have seen the most ads for. McDonalds and Coca-Cola spend over a billion dollars each per year advertising. Asparagus... I don't think I can remember ever seeing an advertisement for a asparagus. Think of this like a pretty big advertising campaign for asparagus.
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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    This is seriously idiotic. I can't even fathom the lack of reasoning that exists in this debate.
    Do you deny the effectiveness of the buy-in-bulk marketing technique? Buying in bulk within retail outlets encourages over-consumption.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Do you deny the effectiveness of the buy-in-bulk marketing technique? Buying in bulk within retail outlets encourages over-consumption.
    Some people view it as a big savings on necessities that you use daily by buying in bulk.

    Ive been a member of warehouse clubs for a long long time...

    I buy bulk....Papertowels, Papier eau de twoilette..Napkins...Coffee...porkchops, big bags of frozen chicken and fish and salmon and I save a fortune over super market prices and I dont have to run to the store nearly as much....Its no different buy a 2lbs of cookies in sams club and eating like a pig...or buying two 1 lb boxs of cookies in Publix and eating like a pig.
    Everyone thats for this law seems to think that suggestion is going to override eating disorders..and lack of discipline....its not and it never has and never will.

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    I do not think this ban would stand judicial review as it runs contrary to the Commerce Clause where Local governments "can't pass laws that do impose burdens on the free flow of commerce between states, only congress can.

    "The Commerce Clause refers to Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution, which gives Congress the power “to regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes"

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Some people view it as a big savings on necessities that you use daily by buying in bulk.

    Ive been a member of warehouse clubs for a long long time...

    I buy bulk....Papertowels, Papier eau de twoilette..Napkins...Coffee...porkchops, big bags of frozen chicken and fish and salmon and I save a fortune over super market prices and I dont have to run to the store nearly as much....Its no different buy a 2lbs of cookies in sams club and eating like a pig...or buying two 1 lb boxs of cookies in Publix and eating like a pig.
    Everyone thats for this law seems to think that suggestion is going to override eating disorders..and lack of discipline....its not and it never has and never will.
    You are talking about a wholesale club. Retail bulk buying marketing techniques encourage over-consumption, this is simply a matter of fact. There is a clear distinction between buying bulk chicken breast and a 64oz mountain dew.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    I actually eat terribly unhealthy stuff. I'm part of the target audience for the awareness raising

    I think stuff like this has some effect. It's like advertising. Everybody thinks that what they purchase is rarely, if ever, affected by ads. But when they go to the store, more often than not, they buy the products they have seen the most ads for. McDonalds and Coca-Cola spend over a billion dollars each per year advertising. Asparagus... I don't think I can remember ever seeing an advertisement for a asparagus. Think of this like a pretty big advertising campaign for asparagus.
    So banning activities is like ads? Lol? That is seriously dumb.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Do you deny the effectiveness of the buy-in-bulk marketing technique? Buying in bulk within retail outlets encourages over-consumption.
    Lets ban it! Bloomberg always needs an excuse for going out in his superman outfit.

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Lets ban it! Bloomberg always needs an excuse for going out in his superman outfit.
    If you want to reply to my comment, then by all means.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    If you want to reply to my comment, then by all means.
    Tell me the worth of your comment? Who cares if it encourages people to act dumb? I see nothing wrong with it.

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Tell me the worth of your comment? Who cares if it encourages people to act dumb? I see nothing wrong with it.
    My comment stems from implementing social cost-benefit analysis. We ban bulk sale of ephedra based products because.... people do dumb ****.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I do not think this ban would stand judicial review as it runs contrary to the Commerce Clause where Local governments "can't pass laws that do impose burdens on the free flow of commerce between states, only congress can.

    "The Commerce Clause refers to Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution, which gives Congress the power “to regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes"
    No, it would. What you're referring to is called the "dormant commerce clause". As you say, it prevents states and local governments from putting burdens on the free flow of commerce. But, that isn't going on here. The types of burdens they look for are things that discriminate in favor of local products over out of state products or things that make the actual flow of commerce problematic. For example, if you have 49 states that require that trucks have mud flaps and one state that prohibits trucks from having mud flaps, then that one state is causing a massive hassle for interstate shipping, so that would violate the dormant commerce clause. If NYC had banned sodas from out of state, but allowed in state sodas or something, that would certainly be a dormant commerce clause problem. But, without discrimination or an impediment to the actual process of interstate commerce, it isn't. States are definitely allowed to decide what products are banned for health reasons and whatnot.
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