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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Heres the point all this miss's. No matter how noble a thought is to stop obesity, you have to put it in its perspective.
    A nutritional expert went on a donut diet to prove that the age old theory calories in calories out are the only way to lose weight. He consumed 1800 calories per day in twinkies and Crispy Cremes and he lost 27lbs in 10 weeks.
    You can eliminate any one thing like big soda or any group of several things and it just will not workm, until the people your targeting have less calories in than calories going OUT...simple. Bloomberg is a tool who once again is looking for attention.

    I forgot to include at the conclusion of the 10 week donut diet, not only did he lose 27lbs, but his total cholesterol went down and his ration of good to bad cholesterol improved...go figure...I read this the other day in my WebMD subscription that comes to my email daily, Im going to look if I still have it

    Ok I found it...

    For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too.

    His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.

    The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.

    His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds.

    But you might expect other indicators of health would have suffered. Not so.

    Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08...sor/index.html
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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Public sector abuse at its finest.

    If you really want to tackle the obesity pandemic in this country, private sector can do it better. For instance, insurance companies can outright refuse coverage of people whose BMI is over a certain percentage.

    Weed out the fatties.

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    IMO what this really is is just an attempt to build awareness of the issue nationwide. It's the same thing as when San Francisco banned happy meals. What they're really trying to do is to get people everywhere to think about whether it is really a good idea to feed that stuff to their kids. And it's successful. Oddly, I lived in San Francisco during the happy meal ban and now I live in New York. In both cases, the people were fine with it. Really they didn't care either way. They're both wealthy cities. Not a lot of super jumbo sodas or happy meals were being consumed in either place anyways. That isn't the point. The point was getting the national media talking about it.

    I don't know what the ultimate solution is, but something needs to change with portion sizes in the US. It really is totally out of control. I used to travel to Europe for work a lot. If I was there for a couple weeks, consistently, the first few days I'd feel a little hungry because the portions were smaller. But I'd get over it pretty quick. And guess what, people there are much, much, skinnier. Then I'd come back and the first thing you're struck by is how fat everybody is. It really is kind of startling when you leave and come back. And for a few days I'd feel like I had too much food after every meal. But then I'd get used to that again and resume fattening up.... And the portions here are getting bigger and bigger every year. The health care costs created and the impact on our quality of life are enormous. We do need to do something. Maybe not bans, but something needs to change.
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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Bloomberg wanted to raise taxes on the big sugary drinks, but I believe the State said "no".

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    IMO what this really is is just an attempt to build awareness of the issue nationwide. It's the same thing as when San Francisco banned happy meals. What they're really trying to do is to get people everywhere to think about whether it is really a good idea to feed that stuff to their kids. And it's successful. Oddly, I lived in San Francisco during the happy meal ban and now I live in New York. In both cases, the people were fine with it. Really they didn't care either way. They're both wealthy cities. Not a lot of super jumbo sodas or happy meals were being consumed in either place anyways. That isn't the point. The point was getting the national media talking about it.

    I don't know what the ultimate solution is, but something needs to change with portion sizes in the US. It really is totally out of control. I used to travel to Europe for work a lot. If I was there for a couple weeks, consistently, the first few days I'd feel a little hungry because the portions were smaller. But I'd get over it pretty quick. And guess what, people there are much, much, skinnier. Then I'd come back and the first thing you're struck by is how fat everybody is. It really is kind of startling when you leave and come back. And for a few days I'd feel like I had too much food after every meal. But then I'd get used to that again and resume fattening up.... And the portions here are getting bigger and bigger every year. The health care costs created and the impact on our quality of life are enormous. We do need to do something. Maybe not bans, but something needs to change.
    All of that being true teamosil....the end all do all is what people put in their mouth...and NO one nor any law can control that.

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil
    IMO what this really is is just an attempt to build awareness of the issue nationwide. It's the same thing as when San Francisco banned happy meals. What they're really trying to do is to get people everywhere to think about whether it is really a good idea to feed that stuff to their kids. And it's successful. Oddly, I lived in San Francisco during the happy meal ban and now I live in New York. In both cases, the people were fine with it. Really they didn't care either way. They're both wealthy cities. Not a lot of super jumbo sodas or happy meals were being consumed in either place anyways. That isn't the point. The point was getting the national media talking about it.

    I don't know what the ultimate solution is, but something needs to change with portion sizes in the US. It really is totally out of control. I used to travel to Europe for work a lot. If I was there for a couple weeks, consistently, the first few days I'd feel a little hungry because the portions were smaller. But I'd get over it pretty quick. And guess what, people there are much, much, skinnier. Then I'd come back and the first thing you're struck by is how fat everybody is. It really is kind of startling when you leave and come back. And for a few days I'd feel like I had too much food after every meal. But then I'd get used to that again and resume fattening up.... And the portions here are getting bigger and bigger every year. The health care costs created and the impact on our quality of life are enormous. We do need to do something. Maybe not bans, but something needs to change.
    I don't think any parent is under the delusion that feeding their kids a Happy Meal is healthy, or that you can't get obese from Coca-Cola and Oreos.

    I doubt that "raising awareness" is a useful tool, because I imagine the populace is very aware. One problem I've noticed is that the cheapest foods are the foods that tend to be the worst for you. You can get a Little Debbie candy bar or brownie for 50 cents, or you can get an apple (maybe, and not in a vending machine).

    At McDonalds, you can go get a Big Mac, fry, and drink for 5 bucks, or you can go to Subway and have a footlong veggie sub (no drink) for 5 bucks that's guaranteed to not fill you up as much.

    Want to lower the obesity rate? Subsidize and bring down the costs of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and healthy foods. Don't ban things that Big Brother deems is "bad from you" from his lofty perch.

    I prefer allowing for people to make better decisions, not taking that decision power away from them.

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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I don't think any parent is under the delusion that feeding their kids a Happy Meal is healthy, or that you can't get obese from Coca-Cola and Oreos.

    I doubt that "raising awareness" is a useful tool, because I imagine the populace is very aware. One problem I've noticed is that the cheapest foods are the foods that tend to be the worst for you. You can get a Little Debbie candy bar or brownie for 50 cents, or you can get an apple (maybe, and not in a vending machine).
    It isn't about giving people a piece of information they didn't have before, it is about getting people to think about it. Like right now you and I are sitting here having a conversation about what kinds of foods are healthier and what foods are less healthy. That's the point of it. Remind people to think about what they eat.
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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    It isn't about giving people a piece of information they didn't have before, it is about getting people to think about it. Like right now you and I are sitting here having a conversation about what kinds of foods are healthier and what foods are less healthy. That's the point of it. Remind people to think about what they eat.
    I think we all understand the purpose, the debate is whether its of any value to write laws to try and make people think. I dont think Bloombergs soda law is going to that at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I think we all understand the purpose, the debate is whether its of any value to write laws to try and make people think. I dont think Bloombergs soda law is going to that at all
    It is though. You and I are thinking about how healthy the things we eat are right now.
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    Re: NYC Soda Ban Could Include Frappucinos And Popcorn At Movie Theaters

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    It is though. You and I are thinking about how healthy the things we eat are right now.
    Yes, you and I are, but you and I id bet a donut are already healthy eaters and we are on a discussion forum
    Personally I do not think the big gulp ban will change a single bad eating New Yorkers mind...but hey...I really hope im wrong this time

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