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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    I dont see what the big deal is since over and over these protesters have expressed that they are willing to get arrested for their cause.
    Because they were wrongfully arrested during a peaceful march.
    Sure they are willing to get arrested, in which they did..

    OWS got what they were looking for on the Brooklyn bridge which was an sensational moment to exploit and to use as a spring board.
    Actually the police did.
    Arresting hundreds during a peaceful march. The police handed them a moment, of course after they brutally oppressed them days earlier..

    So there really isnt any foul since the protesters were looking to get arrested.
    I think peacefully marching across a bridge is not "looking to get arrested"....

    Which is the entire point of OWS is to create situational photo ops to use in radical Leftist propaganda.


    Thats why radical Leftists are not really worried about how the protest is going right now.


    Because they have future plans that will take everything from the protest out of context and twist it with propaganda. You can try that line of accusing me of being an conspiracy nut all you want but it wont change anything, I will still be here so give up that attack already it wont work.
    You are a conspiracy nut when it comes to this movement. You believe its being controlled by a small minority...


    But it was funny to watch you try to deny the main premise of OWS the goal of shutting down Wall Street.
    There main goals are these
    Occupy Wall Street - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Did you really think that I would let such an propagandist attempt slide?
    No my self righteous teacher of course not!~

    Seriously everyone knows that OWS was intending on shutting down Wall Street in order to start a Revolution.[
    The idea was to cripple the people with the power (ie money) that control the government. Come on now dont try to deny it again I could link hundreds of occupies saying that was the goal. Its the type of dishonesty that you just exhibited that has destroyed any chance of OWS having any real success.


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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Because they were wrongfully arrested during a peaceful march. Sure they are willing to get arrested, in which they did....
    Wrongfully arrested? I can't speak for NYC since I've never lived there, but everywhere I have lived you are not allowed to block or march on a city street without a rally or parade permit.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Actually the police did. Arresting hundreds during a peaceful march. The police handed them a moment, of course after they brutally oppressed them days earlier...
    Sorry, once you start blocking public streets it's no longer "peaceful" in my mind.

    How many dead OWSers were there? Until you can show me corpses, they haven't been "brutally oppressed".

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I think peacefully marching across a bridge is not "looking to get arrested"....
    Everywhere I've ever lived it would qualify.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Because they were wrongfully arrested during a peaceful march.
    Sure they are willing to get arrested, in which they did..
    The protesters did not have to follow a few cops onto a bridge in lanes reserved for vehicles. But why refuse such a wonderful gift, things couldnt have gone much better for OWS that day?


    Actually the police did.
    Arresting hundreds during a peaceful march. The police handed them a moment, of course after they brutally oppressed them days earlier..
    Yea NYPD screwed up I agree with that. NYPD always screws up its a perfect match for OWS and photo op sensationalism. Brutal? lol

    I think peacefully marching across a bridge is not "looking to get arrested"....
    Again the protesters should have realized the situation that they were in. But then mobs generally are not rational.








    You are a conspiracy nut when it comes to this movement. You believe its being controlled by a small minority...
    lol sure whatever dude.

    Why didnt you go with this Wikipedia entry? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_movement#Goals

    Goals

    During the early weeks, the movement was criticized for having no clearly defined goals. Speaking on October 7, Kalle Lasn of Adbusters said that in the early stages demands and leaders were the "mysterious part" that allowed the movement to grow.[66] By late October, Adbusters had been trying to "rally it around a single, clear demand" for a Robin Hood tax, with a global march in support of the Robin Hood tax planned for October 29.[67][68] Naomi Wolf has argued that the impression created by much of the media that the protestors do not have clear demands is false. Wolf argues they do have clear demands including a desire to end what they see as the corrupting effect of money on politics. [69] The New Yorker magazine stated that the claims of Lasn and White were specific: tighten banking-industry regulations, ban high-frequency trading, arrest all 'financial fraudsters' responsible for the 2008 crash, and form a Presidential commission to investigate and prosecute corruption in politics.[39] According to Bloomberg Businessweek, protesters want more and better jobs, more equal distribution of income, bank reform, and a reduction of the influence of corporations on politics.[70] The movement has also been described as broadly anticapitalist.[71][72][73] Some commentators such as David Graeber and Judith Butler have criticized the idea that the movement must have clearly defined demands; they argue that issuing demands is counterproductive for the Occupy movement, because doing so would legitimize the very power structures the movement seeks to challenge.[74][75]
    In late November, the London contingent of the Occupy movement released their first statement on corporations, where they called for measures to end tax evasion by wealthy firms. The reason for the delay in articulating a clear demand was given as the time it takes to reach a consensus with the sometimes slow processes of participatory democracy.[76] Efforts are still underway to reach consensus with other occupy groups around the world for a global statement.[77] The global movement has been called the reinvention of politics, revolution, and utopia in the twenty-first century.[78]
    If I am to believe your link is legit why not the one above that clearly puts Adbusters as the leader of the occupy movement? Both are the same source. In fact the link that you provided say this: The Canadian activist group Adbusters initiated the protest, which has led to Occupy protests and movements around the world. The main issues are social and economic inequality, greed, corruption and the undue influence of corporations on government—particularly from the financial services sector.

    Now lets be logical here, the historic instigator to the occupy movement was this: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET | Adbusters Culturejammer Headquarters This is where they framed the intent of the movement and is why the protest was to be at Wall Street. The time has come to deploy this emerging stratagem against the greatest corrupter of our democracy: Wall Street, the financial Gomorrah of America. Obviously the intent was to shut down Wall Street.


    No my self righteous teacher of course not!~
    Hey you are the one that tried to dishonestly make the claim that OWS never wanted to shut down Wall Street.


    Lets go back to the Wiki definition of the OWS goals that you obviously must endorse otherwise you wouldnt have provided that link.

    OWS's goals include a more balanced distribution of income,[51] more and better jobs,[51] bank reform[27] (including reduction or elimination of profits earned by banks),[51] a reduction in the influence of corporations on politics,[51] forgiveness of student loan debt[51][52] or other relief for indebted students,[53][54] and alleviation of the foreclosure situation.[55

    Ill just ignore the rest of what was wrote since it isnt a list of goals but more like opinions. Strangely the demands listed in your link seem to have a theme thats familiar. Lets not be coy everything about OWS leans to the Left. Oh wait there is a minority of Ron Paul supporters that may or may have not been present at some point. But that hardly counts other than it just shows how naive the Ron Paul supporters were. But they are gone and all that is left is well a Left leaning movement. Which means that it was dead before it even started. since this country is not entirely Left leaning and never will be. I get tired of listening to the Left and the Right trying to take over the country without even asking the people what they want. Ows, Tea Party, Communists, Nazis etc. your all the same and you all want the same with minor details of difference; total power. Yes I know its all about equality or fairness or what the people want right? Why dont you guys ever let the people decide what we want rather than start movements that are obviously not the majority of the populations wants? Case in point not every American wants to redistribute wealth. I would love to join a fight against corruption in America but I will never join a movement that is actually an ideological revolution that aims to turn the country entirely to the Left. Or in the case of the Tea party entirely to the Right. OWS and the Tea Party are like partisan hacks on steroids. Its only turns out to be factions hell bent on running this country by themselves. The whole thing is disgusting and offensive.

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