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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    of course he didn't.
    But his policies are a violation of the second amendment.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Dead OWS participants? Wow...just wow.
    That would be the only reaction from law enforcement that I could even come close to categorizing as an over-reaction to the worthless wastes of flesh and oxygen.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    If people like Tigger drove history we'd still be under a king and the vast majority of us would be slaves.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungConserv View Post
    But his policies are a violation of the second amendment.
    I'll wait for the SCOTUS to make that determination.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    If people like Tigger drove history we'd still be under a king and the vast majority of us would be slaves.
    As the VAST SiperMajority of people deserve to be.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Lol if there is so much inequality how come the average citizen is unaware of it?
    Apathy.

    Inequality is not something that someone needs to be told exists. Inequality is something that people cannot but to recognize since it is around them at every turn. The problem is that OWS sensationalized the concept of inequality too much. OWS was disconnected from reality and the average citizen notice that disconnect just as they notice the disconnect the wealthy politicians have.
    How is this not a problem? How is it "sensationalized"?


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    Then there wasnt any success now was there?
    It brought the issue to the limelight



    Its that small percentage that is controlling the majority of the movement now.
    How?
    Proof?



    First they were not just slowing down tragic they were purposely stopping it.
    They are marching on a bridge. Of course traffic is going to have to slow down....

    The entire premise of the original protesters were to shut down Wall Street by having mass protests in the middle of it.
    Yes. In a peaceful manner.

    And lets be honest they were not talking about just stopping traffic in a road.
    They never stopped any traffic. They were marching. If they wanted to "shut down the bridge" they would just sit.

    OWS planned on causing a disruption to the stock market in an attempt to topple our financial system.
    Ehhhhhhhh


    It was an attempted economic terrorism tactic.
    Its kind of hard to shut something down when your not even trying to get in the building....
    Or protesting a couple blocks away from it...



    And at the same time another group headed by the owners of Firedoglake were going to protest in DC to demand the end of military actions. It was a two prong attempt to get people to move against the government in hopes of toppling it like in Egypt. And the entire charade was put on by solely Leftist groups. But thankfully they failed miserably. If they had make any victories we would probably not be discussing this on here but would be fighting in a civil war.
    Yes of course. Quite the conspiracy you got there yet again.

    Oakland is not separate from OWS, in fact they are collectively bound together in solidarity as I have shown you. The occupy movement is viewed as a whole not separate protests. So Oakland is not off limits, no matter how much they have made OWS look bad OWS does not agree with you that Oakland is separate from the movement.But you are correct this is not just about Oakland it is about the entire occupy movement.

    So what is the entire occupy movement upto? Occupy's Pledge to FIGHT BACK

    Occupy's Pledge to FIGHT BACK
    We Didn’t Start the Class War

    The 1% wreck our economy, kill our jobs, seize our homes, assault our rights, destroy the environment, and sentence us to lives of debt and war. For years, we have petitioned our governments for change without redress and have fought tirelessly to elect politicians who only betray us. In a world where the 1% have usurped democracy and politicians refuse to serve the people, the people have but one choice—to fight back!

    The relentless class war against the 99% must end. We’ve been deceived our whole lives into believing the only way to create change is by voting, but now we’re learning there’s another way. A revolution for real democracy is underway, and it falls on each and every one of us to fight together for our common future. We will cast the vote of resistance. We will take direct action to shut this broken system down and build a better world that works in the interest of all people, everywhere.


    Then they give you these choices:

    Will you help us wage resistance? (Check off all that apply)

    I pledge to come out in the streets when Occupy calls for a day of action.
    I pledge to attend at least one meeting with my local Occupy group.
    Click Here to find one in your area
    I pledge to help promote #occupy news and actions via social media.
    I pledge to donate what I make in one hour to an Occupy-related project.
    Click Here for our curated list of places to donate
    I pledge to never go to work during a general strike.
    I pledge to help organize my co-workers to make demands. It doesn’t matter if I’m behind a desk, a cash register, or a machine—we deserve better treatment.
    Click Here to learn how
    I pledge to attend a direct action / civil disobedience training session.
    Click Here for NYC Summer Disobedience School
    Click Here for online video training
    I pledge to dump my bank and join a credit union.
    Click Here to find one in your area


    I pledge to start an affinity group to occupy something.
    This can be just about anything. Like a park, a farm, defending a foreclosed home, or holding a sit-in at your town hall or school. You might only need a half dozen or so dedicated people. Issue demands if you like, but don't go home until they're met. You can even use blockading to make it extra hard for them to remove you. Remember: Occupying is a militant nonviolent tactic meant to assert control over physical space by reclaiming it for a new purpose while disrupting the ability of your adversary to use that space, thus forcing recognition of your cause. You don't need a permit any more than Martin Luther King Jr. needed permission to hold sit-ins at lunch counters. This is the very meaning of civil disobedience, but it also means you'll be risking arrest so you should consider seeking legal counsel beforehand. How much does change mean to you?


    This last choice is interesting. It tells us exactly what 'Occupying" is defined as: Occupying is a militant nonviolent tactic meant to assert control over physical space by reclaiming it for a new purpose while disrupting the ability of your adversary to use that space, thus forcing recognition of your cause.

    Also of interest is that OWS is asserting that they are involved in direct action Which the have made a link for that says this:direct action is
    non-violent civil disobedience, demonstrations, strikes, sit-ins—activities undertaken by individuals or groups to influence change outside of electoral politics.


    My point is this: That the occupy movement does not believe in democracy at least not until they have the numbers. They keep making it clear that they do not want to vote on anything that they want to force an revolution on the US and the rest of the world. OWS does not = the 99% and OWS has admitted it. Which is why I have always asserted that Americans will not allow Leftists to dictate to us what we do. OWS is not about equality OWS is about taking over and forcing everyone to believe in their ideologies.

    This is the very meaning of civil disobedience, but it also means you'll be risking arrest so you should consider seeking legal counsel beforehand. How much does change mean to you?
    Im not debating this here.......
    Move it somewhere else then i will respond so it wont derail the thread


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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    That would be the only reaction from law enforcement that I could even come close to categorizing as an over-reaction to the worthless wastes of flesh and oxygen.
    Yep sense someone has a different opinion than you and voice their opinion in a different way they are "worthless wastes of flesh and oxygen".


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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yep SINCE someone has a different opinion than you and voice their opinion in a different way they are "worthless wastes of flesh and oxygen".
    Nope. It's the fact that they have a wrong opinion and choose to disturb the peace to protest it that I consider them such. Either one of those issues individually I could probably deal with. Both of them together is just too much.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Nope. It's the fact that they have a wrong opinion
    You cant have a "wrong opinion" thats why its called AN OPINION

    and choose to disturb the peace to protest it that I consider them such.
    Oh god they protest!

    Either one of those issues individually I could probably deal with. Both of them together is just too much.


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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Apathy.
    Really?


    How is this not a problem? How is it "sensationalized"?
    [IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/e188lx.pn
    So this graph alone means inequality to you?



    It brought the issue to the limelight
    And then faded quickly.




    How?
    Proof?
    I already provided that top you.




    They are marching on a bridge. Of course traffic is going to have to slow down....


    Yes. In a peaceful manner.


    They never stopped any traffic. They were marching. If they wanted to "shut down the bridge" they would just sit.
    "Whose bridge is this – our bridge! Take the bridge!" A small group cannot take a public space for themselves.
    Ehhhhhhhh Its kind of hard to shut something down when your not even trying to get in the building....
    Or protesting a couple blocks away from it...
    Ok here you go.

    Watch Wall Street Shut Down. Live. | OccupyWallSt.org

    12:14 pm: global solidarity actions: Occupy LA blocking bridge into financial district; Occupy Portland closes Steel Bridge; 30,000 march in Greece; more updates to come.

    November 17th Day of Action | OccupyWallSt.org New York City
    BREAKFAST: Shut Down Wall Street - 7:00 a.m.

    Enough of this economy that exploits and divides us. It's time we put an end to Wall Street's reign of terror and begin building an economy that works for all. We will gather in Liberty Square at 7:00 a.m., before the ring of the Trading Floor Bell, to prepare to confront Wall Street with the stories of people on the frontlines of economic injustice. There, before the Stock Exchange, we will exchange stories rather than stocks.


    May 1st Blockade Called For New York Bridges, Tunnels, and Ferries

    Occupy the Bridge


    Yes of course. Quite the conspiracy you got there yet again.
    A Modest Call to Action on this September 17th | OccupyWallSt.org



    Im not debating this here.......
    Move it somewhere else then i will respond so it wont derail the thread
    It was completely on topic. What exactly is it that you are not debating? Did you even read my response it was not about Oakland just the first short paragraph mentioned Oakland? Did you not even read this far? But you are correct this is not just about Oakland it is about the entire occupy movement.
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