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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Oh god
    Back to these images again?

    Also holding a sign is peaceful even if its with a hateful message. Just like Nazis they can hold a peaceful rally even if they use racist imagery.
    You cannot deny that Oakland is a part of OWS. Thats why I provided you with this link: occupywallst.org/article/solidarity-sunday/

    "Yesterday, Occupy Oakland moved to convert a vacant building into a community center to provide education, medical, and housing services for the 99%. Police responded with tear gas, rubber bullets, beanbag rounds and mass arrests. The state has compounded its policy of callous indifference with a ruthless display of violent repression. The Occupy movement will respond, as we have always reponded: with an overwhelming show of collective resistance. Today, we take to the streets. Across the country, we will demonstrate our resolve to overcome repression and continue to build a better world grounded in love and solidarity for one another. All eyes on all Occupies."

    And from experience so far if one does not join the resistance we are targeted as being with the 1% or in effect the enemy. Its for the principle alone that I am resisting the resistance. But at least call it what it is a resistance and the protests are just a tactic of the resistance.

    Oh and how do the OWS folks act when they are blocked from their peaceful path? Well they start yelling and getting all upset that someone blocked their path. It would seem that blocking someone path isnt very peaceful even to the occupiers.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    You cannot deny that Oakland is a part of OWS. Thats why I provided you with this link: occupywallst.org/article/solidarity-sunday/

    "Yesterday, Occupy Oakland moved to convert a vacant building into a community center to provide education, medical, and housing services for the 99%. Police responded with tear gas, rubber bullets, beanbag rounds and mass arrests. The state has compounded its policy of callous indifference with a ruthless display of violent repression. The Occupy movement will respond, as we have always reponded: with an overwhelming show of collective resistance. Today, we take to the streets. Across the country, we will demonstrate our resolve to overcome repression and continue to build a better world grounded in love and solidarity for one another. All eyes on all Occupies."

    And from experience so far if one does not join the resistance we are targeted as being with the 1% or in effect the enemy. Its for the principle alone that I am resisting the resistance. But at least call it what it is a resistance and the protests are just a tactic of the resistance.

    Oh and how do the OWS folks act when they are blocked from their peaceful path? Well they start yelling and getting all upset that someone blocked their path. It would seem that blocking someone path isnt very peaceful even to the occupiers.
    Im not debating this issue here. I have already made the points i wanted to make on that thread about 3 months ago. If you want to continue to debate on that issue PM me and we can move this discussion and have the whole other round of discussion about those images there and about Occupy Oakland and the events that unfolded on that night on the other thread. I will be more than happily do that on that thread and not derail this thread. Just PM me on the thread link to that thread about Occupy Oakland and i will be more than happy to do it there.


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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    The Constitution is incorporated, for the most part.
    By definition of incorporation u either take it all or nothing and the states have their own constitution.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Who cares? OWS has run it's 15 minutes out and is fading back into insignificance where it began.

    Police over reaction and abuse should always be exposed and prosecuted.

    Can someone tell me anything OWS accomplished? Anything good? Outside of being a grass roots movement with no future.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Who cares? OWS has run it's 15 minutes out and is fading back into insignificance where it began.

    Police over reaction and abuse should always be exposed and prosecuted.

    Can someone tell me anything OWS accomplished? Anything good? Outside of being a grass roots movement with no future.
    National discussion. Brought to the front the topics of inequality, economic wages amongst working class and middle class people, corporate injustice, and money in politics.


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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    National discussion. Brought to the front the topics of inequality, economic wages amongst working class and middle class people, corporate injustice, and money in politics.
    As if no one new any of that already.

    So you are saying they brought a dialog that we were already having.

    Sorry, that is a tall bucket of fail.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    National discussion. Brought to the front the topics of inequality, economic wages amongst working class and middle class people, corporate injustice, and money in politics.
    All of those topics were being discussed nationally before the occupiers started squatting in public places. During Katrina the national discussion was focused on inequality. Liberals have been talking about wages for a longtime. Conservative's as well. And both sides have been talking about the working clss and the middle class. Corporations have also been a big topic of national discussion, have you not been paying attention to Enron and also the bail louts and and that national debate? And money in politics is always a big focus of national discussion long before the occupiers were even born.

    But how much of a national debate on any of those subjects is going on right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Im not debating this issue here. I have already made the points i wanted to make on that thread about 3 months ago. If you want to continue to debate on that issue PM me and we can move this discussion and have the whole other round of discussion about those images there and about Occupy Oakland and the events that unfolded on that night on the other thread. I will be more than happily do that on that thread and not derail this thread. Just PM me on the thread link to that thread about Occupy Oakland and i will be more than happy to do it there.
    You are the one that posted a giant photo of a protest and asserted that it was peaceful. You were implying that all of OWS is peaceful which just is not true. If you do not want someone to answer your assertions in this thread dont offer them. You cant just assert something then when called on it turn around and cry about derailing a thread when you were the one derailing it in the first place.

    Oakland is not the leader of OWS but like I showed in that link OWS is in solidarity with Oakland and their Anarchist block bloc tactics. The only occupiers that are not in solidarity with the black bloc tactics are the Liberal tools that had not figured out that they are in the wrong protest. But the Liberals figured it out and left OWS and now OWS is just a collection of radicals. Which makes OWS a fringe movement of radicals. Which also means that groups like those in Oakland have more power in the occupy movement. Plus OWS has been very vocally against Obama and the Liberals are trying to get Obama reelected so they cant tolerate such things anymore.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    All protests are a source of rebellion.
    Rebellion is not protected by the Constitution, peaceable assembly is.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    As if no one new any of that already.
    To the extent of? No. Not at all.


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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Rebellion is not protected by the Constitution, peaceable assembly is.
    Rebellion is just refusing some sort of authority. It can be done in a peaceful matter.


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