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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If you want to see it that way, yes. You can't claim freedom of speech when yelling, "Fire!" in a crowded theater either. Oh my, all your rights are gone!
    But the thing is no one is yelling fire.


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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    A drop of water in a bucket of vinegar. Many of the OWS were arrested for actually breaking the law.
    Right.....................


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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Okay, then answer YoungConserv's question.
    I answered his questions some time ago. If he wishes to ask me more, he can. If you're referring to post #125, he was talking to you brochacho.

    Or just inform us which of the rights listed in the Constitution is absolute and not set aside/altered for public safety and the abridging of the rights of others.
    None of the rights should ever be set aside for such erroneous concepts such as "public safety". Ever. Each and every one of the first 10 Amendments has been violated, except, to my knowledge, the 3rd.

    This is one lower court decision by a liberal court. I don't see it getting to the SCOTUS, but the decision does not comport with previous SCOTUS decisions regarding individual constitutional rights vs public safety laws.
    Federal courts are liberal now? lulz.
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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So its only free speech and peaceful in verified and accepted "zones"?



    Thats some great "freedom" there...
    No, not at all. I think police need to keep their cool and be reasonable. Maybe that was not the case here but I wasn't there and I am guessing you weren't either.
    It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    The fact that it's their Constitutional right to protest. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
    You don't have a Constitutional right to protest. You have a Constitutional right to peaceably assemble. Intentionally blocking traffic, is not peaceful.
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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    You don't have a Constitutional right to protest. You have a Constitutional right to peaceably assemble. Intentionally blocking traffic, is not peaceful.
    OWS doesnt claim to be just protesting. They also claim to be engaged in Civil disobedience. Civil disobedience is a form of rebellion. So its a bit more than just protesting.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    I answered his questions some time ago. If he wishes to ask me more, he can. If you're referring to post #125, he was talking to you brochacho.
    No, you really haven't, and yes I know he mistook what I was saying, but his question applies to your current argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    None of the rights should ever be set aside for such erroneous concepts such as "public safety". Ever. Each and every one of the first 10 Amendments has been violated, except, to my knowledge, the 3rd.
    What's your argument then? That they should be absolute? And that the SCOTUSes over the last two centuries have gotten it wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Federal courts are liberal now? lulz.
    Some are.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    OWS doesnt claim to be just protesting. They also claim to be engaged in Civil disobedience. Civil disobedience is a form of rebellion. So its a bit more than just protesting.
    So it's not covered under right to peacefully assemble ad the cops where right ?

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    You don't have a Constitutional right to protest. You have a Constitutional right to peaceably assemble.
    The right to protest and the right to peaceably assemble are the same thing.

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    Re: Judge: OWS Protesters Wrongfully Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungConserv View Post
    So it's not covered under right to peacefully assemble ad the cops where right ?
    Its a little more complicated than that. Not all the people knew what they were assisting. But yes it can be documented that the intent was Civil disobedience in many of the demonstrations. The case in point the actual intent was to take the bridge and stop the traffic so regardless of the police making it appear that walking in the lane was ok or not. OWS went to the bridge with the intent to stop traffic by occupying the lanes. The proof is on the official websites of the protesters. So yes the cops were right but they screwed up by leading them onto the bridge. Personally I think that the cops involved should be reprimanded and address the protesters in court whether they had intent or not. Once on the bridge many refused to leave the bridge up until arrested. Those people still broke the law no matter how they arrived at the scene.

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