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    Re: Man claims self-defense in fatal shooting of a neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Man Claims Self Defense in Fatal Shooting of Neighbor | ABC News Blogs - Yahoo!



    Sounds like this guy is setting up a case of self-defense based on fearing for his life and "stand your ground". He took a gun to his neigbor's driveway with his camera while telling the police dispatcher on his cell phone that he is fearing for his life and standing his ground before the shooting.

    Did he shoot and kill his neighbor, an elementary school teacher, and wounded two others in self-defense? What do you think?
    If someone is afraid for their life they don't go TOWARDS the object that is making them afraid for their life.

    The guy was obviously in the wrong here. At least from the information given.
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    Re: Man claims self-defense in fatal shooting of a neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yea, he will be charged.
    thank you captain obvious. the very first sentence of the thread stated clearly he is on trial

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    Re: Man claims self-defense in fatal shooting of a neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    But we all know that you OPPOSE calling the cops. You are adament that Martin was correct to not dial 911 if he feared Zimmerman and instead should have gone and punched Zimmerman. In your opinion, a person should aggressively approach someone annoying them and under no circumstances call the police.
    Listen to yourself... are you crazy/

    Of course I would have called the cops if I thought someone was stlking me.. and I am not 17.

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    Re: Man claims self-defense in fatal shooting of a neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    He's also a moron for videotaping the encounter and thinking that it supports his argument.
    By far my favorite part of this story. What a fool.

    "Hey I think I'll go cap my neighbors for being too loud... better take my video camera so the state has all the evidence they need against me".

    I mean... just... wow.
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    Re: Man claims self-defense in fatal shooting of a neighbor

    Aggression runs a muck....

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    Re: Man claims self-defense in fatal shooting of a neighbor

    This certainly doesn't seem like self defense to me. The guy essentially made himself an armed intruder on someone else's property, then killed a person and wounded two others. I'm guessing he'll go to prison for quite awhile.
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    Re: Man claims self-defense in fatal shooting of a neighbor

    It is also quite disturbing that this guy was once a firefighter. A firefighter is supposed to be a person who put himself in a risky and life threatening situation to save a life of another human being. Not create a volatile situation to take a life.

    He is also a father of six children. You'd think he would be mature enough to deal with this situation without ending in bloodshed.

    Anyway, I'm surprise not one here come to his defense given there were some at the link who blamed the police for this man's action.

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    Re: Man claims self-defense in fatal shooting of a neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Man Claims Self Defense in Fatal Shooting of Neighbor | ABC News Blogs - Yahoo!



    Sounds like this guy is setting up a case of self-defense based on fearing for his life and "stand your ground". He took a gun to his neigbor's driveway with his camera while telling the police dispatcher on his cell phone that he is fearing for his life and standing his ground before the shooting.

    Did he shoot and kill his neighbor, an elementary school teacher, and wounded two others in self-defense? What do you think?
    I have issues with him going to the neighbors property. I think this case deserves a grand jury's most intense scrutiny

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    Re: Man claims self-defense in fatal shooting of a neighbor

    The man is on trial since June 7 or sometime around that time. Here's another link with a better video of the event from News video:

    Raul Rodriguez: When "Stand Your Ground" isn't "Stand Your Ground"

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    Re: Man claims self-defense in fatal shooting of a neighbor

    Here is part of the report of the court case and legal opinion:

    One of the wounded men, a Houston firefighter named Ricky Johnson, told jurors Friday that he and his friends were not at fault, saying Rodriguez “started the process by coming with a gun.”

    Prosecutor Kelli Johnson has portrayed Rodriguez, who fought fires in the Houston suburb of Baytown, as the one who was looking for a fight.

    Kenneth Ellis, who lived across the street from Rodriguez, testified Friday that on the night of the shooting, he saw that Rodriguez was “agitated and angry.” As he left his home, he was saying “Shut up. Shut up.”

    [...]One of Rodriguez’s attorneys, William Stradley, tried to demonstrate that his client was in fear for his life when one of the men lunged at him, and he had less than a second to respond.

    The defense sought to put the burden on the three other men, saying they caused the confrontation to escalate.

    “Do you take any responsibility for what happened,” Stradley asked Johnson.

    “Of course I do,” replied Johnson, who on the video can be seen being restrained by the two other men before the shooting.


    Texas’ version of a stand-your-ground law, known as the Castle Doctrine, was revised in 2007 to expand the right to use deadly force. The new version allows people to defend themselves not only in their homes but also in workplaces or vehicles. It also says a person using force cannot provoke the attacker or be involved in criminal activity at the time.

    While Rodriguez was not in his own home or vehicle or business when the shooting happened, Houston criminal defense attorney Grant Scheiner said he believes the law still applies because the 2007 revision gave people wider latitude on when they can use deadly force. Rodriguez had a concealed handgun permit.
    This is what the writer think: "Personally, I think Rodriguez was in fact justified in using deadly force to defend himself." And he asked: "So again I ask: did Rodriguez still have the right to defend himself by using deadly force?"

    What do you think?
    Last edited by dolphinocean; 06-10-12 at 10:01 PM.

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