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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    What makes the 'concern' from Republicans have over this seem partisan as hell is two fold.

    First SWATting has been going on for years, ABC's GMA reports 400 such incidents. Now that two 'conservative' bloggers have been targeted suddenly Republicans are up in arms.

    The other issue is after volumes of attacking the DoJ and Holder as bumbling why all of a sudden do the Republicans think Holder is now THE man for the job? Again, referring to the news reports it appears the FBI has a handle on the blogger SWATs. The other 398 incidents could use some attention but it appears Republicans are not as concerned with those Citizens as protecting their own talking heads...(seems to be a trend don't you think?)

    SWATting isn't acceptable but given the other threats making the 'conservative' drums beat, I am puzzled why Republicans want the much vilified DOJ to investigate?

    State Investigators with FBI support are the proper responders. But it is an election year...

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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    The other issue is after volumes of attacking the DoJ and Holder as bumbling why all of a sudden do the Republicans think Holder is now THE man for the job? Again, referring to the news reports it appears the FBI has a handle on the blogger SWATs. The other 398 incidents could use some attention but it appears Republicans are not as concerned with those Citizens as protecting their own talking heads...(seems to be a trend don't you think?)

    SWATting isn't acceptable but given the other threats making the 'conservative' drums beat, I am puzzled why Republicans want the much vilified DOJ to investigate?

    State Investigators with FBI support are the proper responders. But it is an election year...
    I'm not a Republican, so I can't speak for them. But I can answer a couple of your questions. I don't think that Holder is suddenly "the man." What he is, however, is the AG. Whether he's competent to do it isn't relevant; it's his job and that of the department he heads.

    Because these are cyber-attacks which could be from anywhere, they may well fall outside county or state jurisdictions.

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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    What makes the 'concern' from Republicans have over this seem partisan as hell is two fold.

    First SWATting has been going on for years, ABC's GMA reports 400 such incidents. Now that two 'conservative' bloggers have been targeted suddenly Republicans are up in arms.

    The other issue is after volumes of attacking the DoJ and Holder as bumbling why all of a sudden do the Republicans think Holder is now THE man for the job? Again, referring to the news reports it appears the FBI has a handle on the blogger SWATs. The other 398 incidents could use some attention but it appears Republicans are not as concerned with those Citizens as protecting their own talking heads...(seems to be a trend don't you think?)

    SWATting isn't acceptable but given the other threats making the 'conservative' drums beat, I am puzzled why Republicans want the much vilified DOJ to investigate?

    State Investigators with FBI support are the proper responders. But it is an election year...
    Way to miss the point. They are being swatted because of their political views, its an attempt to chill free speech. Its harassment with malicious intent. Its because they are visible political figures albeit semi-anonymous that they are targets. I cant stand the way you approach this. If it were happening to left side bloggers, I would be all for the apprehension of those responsible but you seem to be tied up in the election optics of the situation. Wrong is wrong, which political side it is and what response they are advocating is irrelevant, it needs to be stopped.

    Maybe by heightening awareness of the problem, those other 390 plus cases will get the proper attention as well. Did you stop to consider that?

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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Hence the FBI, that question was asked and answered back when tommy gun toting bank robbers escaped justice by crossing state lines.

    That the attack MAY fall outside state jurisdictions isn't a justification for calling the DOJ to take charge of the investigation. It MAY be alot of things, so far the answer is no it ain't.

    But you dodge a key point I had, why did the Republicans ignore 398 SWATtings and only demanded something be done when two 'conservative' bloggers cry foul and declare SWATting a political dirty trick? Was the SWAT attack on a 14 year old boy in Colo a political attack as well? Or it doesn't count because it wasn't against a mouthpiece for 'conservative' propaganda?

    Address the delay in outcry please....

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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

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    way to miss the point and try to make it 'Constitutional'. The bloggers are far from stifled, they are using this to pimp and prance before every media outlet with a microphone. It is publicity whoring by the hacker, the blogger, the senator and all during an election year.

    It is a straw to grasp saying now that two darlings of the 'conservatives' have been SWATted perhaps more attention will be focussed...

    The FBI is the LE Agency to be lead, they are not half stepping just because it is a kid in colo, calling for Holder is just a publicity stunt.

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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
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    way to miss the point and try to make it 'Constitutional'. The bloggers are far from stifled, they are using this to pimp and prance before every media outlet with a microphone. It is publicity whoring by the hacker, the blogger, the senator and all during an election year.

    It is a straw to grasp saying now that two darlings of the 'conservatives' have been SWATted perhaps more attention will be focussed...

    The FBI is the LE Agency to be lead, they are not half stepping just because it is a kid in colo, calling for Holder is just a publicity stunt.
    Your response is in the basest emotion. Im sorry you feel that way, more to the point I feel sorry for you.
    The more attention this gets the less chance there is that those doing it will get away with it over and over. The fact that you are letting partisanship get in the way of seeing that is pretty pathetic.

    They arent just calling for Holder to get involved, they are getting congress involved, this isnt just a prank its a direct shot at silencing critics through intimidation and using police agencies to accomplish it. Its an abuse of the system that warrants a strong penalty, the lower the visibility is on this issue the easier it will be to get away with and keep perpetrating.

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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Your response is a deflection. Getting congress involved is a good thing? Since when is that a good idea? Pass another law? Mix politics and law enforcement?

    I was born at night but it wasn't last night!

    Your silence free speech and critics is weak at best.

    Two no name blogger/radio heads who are prancing in the spotlight??? Give me some of what your smoking!

    If it was Beck, Hannity, even Occy Rush perhaps that crippled bird would fly, but not two 'who the hell are they' guys.

    You confuse base with realistic and congressional concern with political grandstanding...

    The FBI and various state agencies don't need congressional pushing to do their job.

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    rolleyes Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Your response is a deflection. Getting congress involved is a good thing? Since when is that a good idea? Pass another law? Mix politics and law enforcement?

    I was born at night but it wasn't last night!

    Your silence free speech and critics is weak at best.

    Two no name blogger/radio heads who are prancing in the spotlight??? Give me some of what your smoking!

    If it was Beck, Hannity, even Occy Rush perhaps that crippled bird would fly, but not two 'who the hell are they' guys.

    You confuse base with realistic and congressional concern with political grandstanding...

    The FBI and various state agencies don't need congressional pushing to do their job.
    Sorry you aren't familiar with Patterico or Red State or other conservative bloggers. Doesn't mean that others aren't. In fact, Erick Erickson even has a radio show.

    I'm not a Limbaugh fan, but I've no respect for someone who calls him "Occy Rush." So unfair. He had an addiction, and he beat it, but all these years later, some just can't resist the low remark. Pity when there's so much to validly criticize.

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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Your response is a deflection. Getting congress involved is a good thing? Since when is that a good idea? Pass another law? Mix politics and law enforcement?

    I was born at night but it wasn't last night!

    Your silence free speech and critics is weak at best.

    Two no name blogger/radio heads who are prancing in the spotlight??? Give me some of what your smoking!

    If it was Beck, Hannity, even Occy Rush perhaps that crippled bird would fly, but not two 'who the hell are they' guys.

    You confuse base with realistic and congressional concern with political grandstanding...

    The FBI and various state agencies don't need congressional pushing to do their job.
    You are so full of ****.

    Silencing free speech is what this is ALL about. The bloggers have a commonality: they are conservative and they blogged about Brett Kemberlin. You dont have the slightest freaking clue about the story and claim its all publicity. Aaron Worthing lost his job, his wife lost her job, Patterico's family (hes a freaking asst DA for gods sake) was almost shot, Stacy McCain has vacated his home in Maryland. That sure sounds like a publicity hunt.

    This is what happens when politics and a sociopath tries to weild power to silence his critics and possibly uses more outrageous means of initimidation and lawfare to accomplish his ends. I really cant express how ignorant you look on this issue, its breathtaking.

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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Like I said, two dudes that we never heard of until this happened.

    I am 125% FOR finding who did this and taking them to trial. I don't condone threats to civilians no matter their political rants.

    But unlike a fella wanting to nuke the Middle East, I see degrees of response. Having the DOJ launch an investigation into recent leaks of classified information... go for it.

    But before demanding the DOJ investigate the blogger attacks, let the States and FBI have a crack at this. IF they find a vast left wing political attack network THEN DOJ their ass.

    Until then it is a hyper-partisan Senator pandering to the right wingnuts.

    Oh, and the hyper partisan kool-aide drinkers trying to justify the grandstanding...

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