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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Why should the DOJ get involved? Were any Federal crimes commited? If this isn't the action of a government agency, it's not a First Amendment thing. So unless there's something else going on that we don't see, it is at best a State issue.

    Funny how the people who scream loudest about states rights are the same ones wanting Holder to get involved in a State jurisdiction.

    Nothing in what I've read indicates a Federal crime has been commited. Should the perps be arrested? Yes, of course, they are breaking the law. Unless there's something going on that's not in the OP, It's not the DOJ's place.

    Didn't I say - "I think the Senator is p*ssing in the wind if he thinks the DOJ will get involved". But I applaud the Senator for requesting the DOJ to look into.

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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Quote Originally Posted by GJ Flash, replying to Karl View Post
    Really? Which fact(s)? That Black Panther voter intimidation crime was "the simplest and most obvious violation of federal law I saw in my Justice Department career," according to one (now former) DoJ attorney. The Black Panthers were charged for their "obvious" crime. What happened then? Anyone?
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    You still don't know?

    If the Washington Times didn't give you that info, I would suggest switching to a better source. You might try reading this thread as well . . . .

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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene, replying to Karl View Post
    Oh, please, Karl, just cut the crap. Don't try to place the blame here on "the right." Insofar as I am aware, the "right" hasn't said a freaking word. Unless, of course, you regard the ABC blog "The Note" as a rightwing news outlet.
    Incoherent.

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene, replying to Karl View Post
    What other reason could there be for terroristic attacks on conservative bloggers? Just random weirdos who targeted conservative blogs?This is all just a coinky-dinky?
    At least two of us in this thread know the "other reason". Even setting that aside, a lack of imagination or information is not justification for a conclusion.

    Example: The sun moves across the sky every day. Therefore the sun orbits around the Earth.

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene, replying to Karl View Post
    How about getting off your own little agenda and discussing an issue that could have an impact on every POV? How about that?
    I discuss the issue of right wing fanaticism all the time. It leads to intolerance, belligerence, and violence -- all of which certainly impacts every POV, or at least the free expression of it. Just look at McCarthyism, which is enjoying a resurgence of late (on "the right").

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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Aaron Justin Walker Attorney at Law: JAILED
    For violating a restraining order and for maliciously attacking Brett Kimberlin. According to sources inside the courtroom, the Judge in the case ruled against Aaron Justin Walker in a most severe way, telling Mr. Walker that the courts were the rule of law and not Mr. Walker. Further news will be posted as it comes in. For now, Aaron Justin Walker is in the Montgomery County Maryland Jail after being escorted out of the courtroom in handcuffs. The Judge was heard to say as Mr. Walker was being escorted out, “that if this were a criminal case in his courtroom that Mr. Walker would be looking at serious jail time.” Mr. Walker was in total shock as he was escorted out to the jail.
    Aaron Justin Walker Attorney at Law: JAILED

    .....read backstory and follow the links to this intriguing saga of fueding trolls

    Legal Schnauzer: Liberal Activist Brett Kimberlin Engages Right Wingers In a Battle of High-Stakes Hard Ball


    As I understand this very complicated and weird story, this guy Brett Kimberlin got fed up with Breitbart and his minions dirty little pranks against the left so he set up a website to counter Breitbart a few years ago. This made Breitbart's minions angry so they targeted him with a smear campaign on the internet that apparently crossed the line into inciting violence against Kimberlin. So Kimberlin found out who the anonymous bloggers were and filed a lawsuit against them.

    Meanwhile Kimberlin had a previous lawsuit against blogger Justin Walker, an attorney charging him with assault in which the judge had issued a gag order during the ongoing investigation. But Walker couldn't keep quiet and wrote a 28 page blog about the case. So Kimberlin filed another lawsuit against him for that and during the hearing Walker lost his cool and the judge ordered him hauled away in handcuffs. So in retaliation, the Brietbart bloggers logged an internet attack against the judge to try and get him dismissed.

    A few days later Walker was released on bail and no sooner was he out he's claiming Kimberlin was behind some dubious SWAT pranks. But that doesn't seem to fit Kimberlin's mo of using the legal system. So I suspect that this SWAT prank was actually perpetrated by Justin Walker and with "the help" of other bloggers so he would have something to countersue Kimberlin with. Meanwhile, the conservative bloggers are lamenting that the MSM hasn't picked up their smear campaign or the arrest of Walker.
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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Carlton Nalley was sentenced to nine years in federal prison after pleading guilty to offenses related to a SWAT-ting conspiracy in Fort Worth, Texas.
    This has nothing to do with Kimberlin and the Brietbart trolls. Carlton Nalley was a lonely blind kid from a bad home who had a gift for impersonating voices and got himself involved in a nasty circle of trolls on message boards(?) and used SWAT pranks to retaliate against other trolls across state lines that had offended him or wouldn't give him phone sex. It had nothing to do with politics or this current wave of troll wars.
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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    This has nothing to do with Kimberlin and the Brietbart trolls. Carlton Nalley was a lonely blind kid from a bad home who had a gift for impersonating voices and got himself involved in a nasty circle of trolls on message boards(?) and used SWAT pranks to retaliate against other trolls across state lines that had offended him or wouldn't give him phone sex. It had nothing to do with politics or this current wave of troll wars.
    While I agree that the two situations are different, there IS a connection. That would be the tactics...the SWAT-ting.
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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    This has nothing to do with Kimberlin and the Brietbart trolls. Carlton Nalley was a lonely blind kid from a bad home who had a gift for impersonating voices and got himself involved in a nasty circle of trolls on message boards(?) and used SWAT pranks to retaliate against other trolls across state lines that had offended him or wouldn't give him phone sex. It had nothing to do with politics or this current wave of troll wars.
    While that may true (and it sounds reasonable), it was offered to offset the right wing claim -- troll claim, if you will -- that the Obama administration would do nothing about the current situation for partisan reasons. That is the typical right wing attack -- find some rather obscure event and use it to trash someone they don't like (usually on an incorrect or simply preposterous premise).
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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Whoever did the deed should be held accountable for the misuse of 911, harrassment, and being a nimrod.

    30 years in the slammer should straighten out the stooge.

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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Whoever did the deed should be held accountable for the misuse of 911, harrassment, and being a nimrod.

    30 years in the slammer should straighten out the stooge.
    Yes, they should be. That's just not the DOJ's jurisdiction.


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    Re: Senator Asks DOJ to Investigate SWAT-ting Attacks on Conservative Bloggers

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Yes, they should be. That's just not the DOJ's jurisdiction.

    I see this as political harrassment. But we agree they should be held to the letter of the law. When the "rule of law" is dismissed, you have chaos.

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