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    Re: Record Spending On 2012 Elections By GOP Groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    My mistake, when I reread your OP you did complain about both. Sorry about that.
    Thought i made it clear with this: " I expect the same **** from Obama. ".

    But its all good in the hood.


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    Re: Record Spending On 2012 Elections By GOP Groups

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Elections are like a business?
    And a well paying one. Thanks to the current level of government interference with the market, the ability of the winner to steer funds and favorable conditions to his supporters is massive. Businesses typically don't become involved in politics because they have an ideological axe to grind (sometimes particular founders do), they do it because it allows them to profit.

    So long as you legislate buying and selling, the first things bought and sold will be legislators.

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    Re: Record Spending On 2012 Elections By GOP Groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Problem is, though, if 20% to 24% is a "big increase," then there are a LOT of "big increases" on that chart. Strictly IMO, I only see two big increases.

    Note, BTW, that right after the 2009 spike, it starts to come down a little.
    Big increases in spending, when coupled with big increases in taxation are not so much of a problem. The difference between Obama and Bush is that Obama DOUBLED the federal deficit of Bush. Both were bad (big deficit spenders) but not EQUALLY.
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    Re: Record Spending On 2012 Elections By GOP Groups

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Big increases in spending, when coupled with big increases in taxation are not so much of a problem. The difference between Obama and Bush is that Obama DOUBLED the federal deficit of Bush. Both were bad (big deficit spenders) but not EQUALLY.
    WTF? No he didn't! Overall, the deficit has hardly budged under Obama. It was Bush who DECIMATED the Clinton surplus. (You remember the Clinton surplus, right?)
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    Re: Record Spending On 2012 Elections By GOP Groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    WTF? No he didn't! Overall, the deficit has hardly budged under Obama. It was Bush who DECIMATED the Clinton surplus. (You remember the Clinton surplus, right?)
    This would be true if you applied 2009 as belonging to Bush, when he didnt sign the budget and didnt sign the stimulus. If you apply it to Obama, who signed the 2009 budget then yes the deficit was doubled from 400some billion to over 1 trillion.

    A lot on the left seem to want to repeat the lie that the 2009 budget belongs to Bush. Thats a false statement.

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    Re: Record Spending On 2012 Elections By GOP Groups

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    This would be true if you applied 2009 as belonging to Bush, when he didnt sign the budget and didnt sign the stimulus. If you apply it to Obama, who signed the 2009 budget then yes the deficit was doubled from 400some billion to over 1 trillion.

    A lot on the left seem to want to repeat the lie that the 2009 budget belongs to Bush. Thats a false statement.
    PolitiFact | Obama inherited deficits from Bush administration

    You need to get your facts straight. Obama created virtually zero percent of the deficit. ZERO.
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    Re: Record Spending On 2012 Elections By GOP Groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    PolitiFact | Obama inherited deficits from Bush administration

    You need to get your facts straight. Obama created virtually zero percent of the deficit. ZERO.
    You and politfact are full of ****. The budget Bush handed to congress contained a 400B dolllar budget. The budget signed by Obama was double that. If you are going to bull****, at least do so believably. Stimulus was passed under Obama. TARP was passed under Bush and expanded under Obama. So....Im calling BS on you and Politifact.

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    Re: Record Spending On 2012 Elections By GOP Groups

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    You and politfact are full of ****. The budget Bush handed to congress contained a 400B dolllar budget. The budget signed by Obama was double that. If you are going to bull****, at least do so believably. Stimulus was passed under Obama. TARP was passed under Bush and expanded under Obama. So....Im calling BS on you and Politifact.
    Go ahead, keep arguing against the FACTS. You're only vindicating my position.
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    Re: Record Spending On 2012 Elections By GOP Groups

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post




    Holy **** that is a **** ton of money! I expect the same **** from Obama. But dear god! This just adds into my feeling that democracy in the US is for sale. And the politicians are almost puppets on a string from these ****s

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    Did you have the same concerns in 2008 when Obama got most of the money, including the money from wall street???

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    Re: Record Spending On 2012 Elections By GOP Groups

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    With this. Yes. I complain about both sides.
    Of course, you start a thread naming only the GOP. Let's not pretend you're above all the partisanship.

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