"When no other recourse is possible, all citizens have the right to struggle through all means, including armed struggle, against anyone who tries to overthrow the political, social and economic order established in this Constitution." Armed struggle is only allowed if you are fighting for the constitution and its government.
Uhhhh... Ok... :roll:
Except Fidel and the July 26 movement didnt think so at one time...
This isnt about Cuba also. If you wanna debate about Cuba we should take this somewhere else and try to stay on topic..
And even in that event they sound reluctant to let citizens be armed. And sure you are allowed to own guns lol what you are missing is that it was not the will of the people who decided that the government gets to decide whether you can own a gun or not.
The constitution wasn't approved "by the people"? Neither was ours technically...
They allowed their elected officials approve of the constitution.
You also are not talking about what happens when the government denies you the right to own a gun. AT that point you have no democratic avenue to take because its not a democracy its an dictatorship.
Well we really dont know the denial rates in Cuba to own a firearm.
You cant just use the excuse that we do not know why owning guns in Cuba is heavily restricted by the government, not when historically we have a pretty good idea.
Really we have a "historically good idea"?
1.)They are not a wealthy country (embargo to blame) so maybe civilian owning of firearms is not a huge deal to them
2.)Many countries have strict gun laws, is it so that they are worried that the people are going to overthrow the gov? Like France, GB, European countries? Plus you think if they really wanted to overthrow the gov do you think they are going to follow gun laws? I mean look at the IRA, revolutions going all throughout ME.
And lets not gloss over the fact that Chavez decided that no civilian can own a firearm not even for hunting.
Not true. Allowed to own .22 and Shotguns.
All this makes Cuba and Venezuela a very bad example of Democratic Socialism.
Why because they dont believe that everyone should own a gun?
Im sorry but not everyone is gunho heavy throughout the world.
Plus your making this a huge deal over really not that big of a deal. They just have a different gun policy than us.. Get over it.
Which has been my point all along.
Your big problem with Chavez now is that they have a different gun law than us?
All that I can assume since you have demonstrated over and over that you believe that Cuba and Venezuela are great models of Democratic Socialism is that those are the types of Socialism that you want.
I never claimed that Cuba was a great example
And as I have said and as others have said not over my dead body will I ever allow Democratic Socialism to take over America.
Cool beans. Apparently you dont agree with the elctorial process in the USA if by some chance democratic socialism takes root in America in our lifetime you better get your guns ready i guess
Which was my other point that Democratic Socialism can never work since you would need to force it on a large part of any population in any country on Earth.
Cool beans.
You need to learn the theory of a long distance runner
And the only thing that is the result of gun controls is the eventual disarmament of the population. And if you know anything about America our Constitution our history you would understand that a healthy country can only survive as an armed country, its the only way to keep our Representatives truly in check.
Sure.
So we went from Chavez = murderer. Then to jail riots=Chavez fault. Then to Chavez taking guns=bad. Then to Chavez=dictator. Then to Cuba. Now back to Chavez sucks because he is making strict gun laws to try to get the crime rate down=bad because thats bad.
Also if you would like to debate Cuba and their polical process please move to another thread and let me know by PM and i will gladly join ya