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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Venezuela has its friendly Middle Eastern theocracies, we have ours.
    'We'? Surely you mean 'you', don't you?

    That aside, I don't much care for 'ours', either. But at least they aren't trying to kill me.
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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Maybe, but, he has his own wacked out theories...

    His malady has not dampened his sense of humor or hatred for the US.

    "He has even suggested that the CIA might be responsible for his cancer. "It's very difficult to explain, even with the law of probabilities, what has been happening to some of us in Latin America," Chávez in a televised speech in 2011, referring to several other Latin American leaders who had also contracted cancer. Would it be so strange that they've (the U.S. government) invented technology to spread cancer and we won't know about it for 50 years?"

    http://www.cubaheadlines.com/2012/05...ry_cancer.html
    So not only is he a marxist asshole, he's a paranoid marxist asshole.
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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    He is asshole because he is marxist ,very nice logic..
    at least he doesnt devote himself to money.
    No, they two are not connected. He's a marxist and an asshole. Try to keep up.

    By the way, how are things in that model of secularism - Turkey - these days? Still prosecuting piano players for blasphemy?

    Turkish pianist charged with insulting Islam - Yahoo! News

    Get your own act together before you start giving us suggestions as to how we should be governed.
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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, they two are not connected. He's a marxist and an asshole. Try to keep up.

    By the way, how are things in that model of secularism - Turkey - these days? Still prosecuting piano players for blasphemy?

    Turkish pianist charged with insulting Islam - Yahoo! News

    he hasnt been charged but islamic miserable politicians wanted to charge him ,thats all,wiggen .again I have to say that government is supported by US government ,not by me.

    this thread is not about piano player of turkey

    our government is not my choice ,but mostly the choice of US.
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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    You need to keep up. He has been formally charged by a Turkish Court. And you almost had me convinced by your 'secular Turkey' bull****. In fact, it appears as though you're just another Islamic theocracy pretending to be western.

    But keep giving us advice as to how we should be governed. It's highly amusing.
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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    You need to keep up. He has been formally charged by a Turkish Court. And you almost had me convinced by your 'secular Turkey' bull****. In fact, it appears as though you're just another Islamic theocracy pretending to be western.

    But keep giving us advice as to how we should be governed. It's highly amusing.
    you need to keep up!

    although that islamic and liberal! government is supported by US and 35 % of the voters,we are still a secular country ,and no attempt is enough to destroy our strong principles.that court is a toy of this party whose members are admirers of arabians..thats all.their end is soon , but you mustnt try to change the topic of the thread.
    Last edited by Medusa; 06-02-12 at 12:09 PM.
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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    LOLOL he's been voted and revoted and revoted like 8 times. Term limits have absolutely nothing to do with anything.
    Chavez has also undermined the rule of law, shut down opposition media, eroded the independence of courts, and gerrymandered the hell out the country so that his party has continued to get majorities in the legislature despite not getting a majority in elections. Chavez is no Stalin or Hitler, but he has undermined democracy in the country. It doesn't matter if he's won the vote a number of times (something not hurt by him shutting down opposition media). Plenty of dictators have had popular mandates. True democracy is not just about winning votes; it is about securing the rights of all citizens.
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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    you need to keep up!

    although that islamic and liberal! government is supported by US and 35 % of the voters,we are still a secular country ,and no attempt is enough to destroy our strong principles.that court is a toy of this party whose members are admirers of arabians..thats all.but you mustny try to change teh topic of the thread.
    Now that you have mentioned the court is a "toy of the party" in Turkey. Could you comment on the example I gave in post 45 where the judge was following the constitutional guarantees in Venezuela and Chavez had her thrown in jail and your statement "people were cared by a politician like chavez" is justified.

    I will repost it below:

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    He also has undermined the judicial system, created an air a fear amomgst the legal profession and jailed a judge for doing her job.

    "Throwing a judge in prison for doing her job and issuing a decision that upholds fundamental rights protected under both Venezuelan and international law is not something you'd expect in a functioning democracy."
    Rights group says Caracas attacks judicial freedom | Reuters

    "Three U.N. human rights experts on Wednesday accused President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela of creating a climate of fear within his country's legal profession with the arrest last week of a judge. The three criticized the detention of Judge Maria Lourdes Afiuni, who was seized by police Dec. 10, a day after she ordered the conditional release of banker Eligio Cedeno. "Reprisals for exercising their constitutionally guaranteed functions and creating a climate of fear among the judiciary and lawyers' profession serve no purpose except to undermine the rule of law and obstruct justice," they said in a statement."

    U.N. criticizes Venezuela's President Chavez for judge's arrest - Los Angeles Times

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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Now that you have mentioned the court is a "toy of the party" in Turkey. Could you comment on the example I gave in post 45 where the judge was following the constitutional guarantees in Venezuela and Chavez had her thrown in jail and your statement "people were cared by a politician like chavez" is justified.

    I will repost it below:
    I understand what you mean ,but I would prefer chavez government rather than our puppet arabian government.because akp is a both fascist and globalist administration which works for global benefits instead of people's rights in turkey.chavez tries to care about his people^s benefits.
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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Having watched someone die of aggressive cancer, I wouldn't wish such a fate on anyone, regardless of what his politics may be.

    If the people of Venezuela want to get rid of Chavez, then it's up to them to get rid of him. How do they/we know whether the next guy might be even more authoritarian?

    and, given the way our own government is going, how long will it be before we, too, have a dictator in the WH?

    (just three somewhat unrelated observations)
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