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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Here was my PM about term limits:

    "I believe they (term limits) are pointless. If people like you and you are a good leader and you are operating in free and fair elections the people can no longer vote for who they want. You also loose leaders, and experienced government officials. They are undemocratic. Plus democratic elections also are basically a sort of limit, they are a structural limitation, hense you have to win if you want to hold power.
    More reasons include if you cannot run for a position because of a term limit and a new leader is elected that person who previously held the position takes all the experience and essential skills and work experience, and when a new leader comes in they will have to develop this from scratch. Also leaders who have reached a term limit are more likely to ignore the will of the people and the promises they promised on the campaign since they wont face a electorate after their last term.
    They also serve little to no purpose. If you are popular amongst your people why should something such as a term limit hold your back for running again? It slows down democracy, and government."
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    A democratic government is served best not by professional politicians whose goal it is to hold on to power at all costs and find ways of enriching themselves on the public dime, but by citizen legislators whose goal is to do some good for the country in a limited term of public service, and then go back to a real career.
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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Yeah, I think we should extend that philosophy to all careers. No point in having people in jobs who have actual experience, especially in politics where we can just turn the whole thing over to unelected bureaucrats.

    'Citizen Legislators'? Jesus, what is this -1792?
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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    will be apprehensive about who emerges to fill the soon to occur power void
    Interesting comment. It's not one you hear very often in a democracy.

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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Here was my PM about term limits:

    "I believe they (term limits) are pointless. If people like you and you are a good leader and you are operating in free and fair elections the people can no longer vote for who they want. You also loose leaders, and experienced government officials. They are undemocratic. Plus democratic elections also are basically a sort of limit, they are a structural limitation, hense you have to win if you want to hold power.
    More reasons include if you cannot run for a position because of a term limit and a new leader is elected that person who previously held the position takes all the experience and essential skills and work experience, and when a new leader comes in they will have to develop this from scratch. Also leaders who have reached a term limit are more likely to ignore the will of the people and the promises they promised on the campaign since they wont face a electorate after their last term.
    They also serve little to no purpose. If you are popular amongst your people why should something such as a term limit hold your back for running again? It slows down democracy, and government."
    Being the President or holding public office is a privilege and a duty not a career. There are many qualified people that can be politicians. Its not like these citizens are stupid idiots that can do the job. In fact that is what you are saying what Hugo Chavez is saying when publicly prays to god to stay alive so he can remain president. Hugo Chavez obviously thinks that only he can save the country which is certainly not even close to being true. but Chavez has manipulated the masses to get them to believe that he is Simon Bolivar incarnate. Which was not really that hard since the education system before he took office was almost nonexistent. The people are being indoctrinated in typical Leninist style schools.

    And yes it was a bad thing to spend hundreds of millions on a monument when a portion of your people are sleeping the streets, starving, lacking clean drinking water, and having rolling black outs.
    Where is the compassion the equality? Why build a monument to a dead guy when living people are suffering for the want of what they should already have in a Socialist country? What happened to the rights oof those citizens? Dont you find building a 130m dollar building just a tad bit corrupt? Or are you idolizing Hugo Chavez and believe that he cant do no wrong? One day he is not perfect and the next you are assuming that he would never abuse his power and when I show you an obvious abuse of power you shrug it off while ignoring the plight of the common citizen.

    Again my concerns are with the people of Venezuela not a ruler that wants to keep his power. You seem hell bent on keeping a single person in power. Why is that what is so great about Hugo Chavez that makes him better than anyone else in Venezuela? Why should Chavez sleep in a palace when a large portion of the population lives in third world conditions? Come on man is your ideology so important that you put a tyrant up on a pedestal while ignoring the fact that people in Venezuela are suffering despite Chavez being in control for 14 years? How many people have died waiting for Chavez to save them? How much longer must the people wait for oil money to pay for their rights?

    Speaking of oil, its safe also to say that Chavez is not at all concerned with the environment. Not once has he even suggested any green technologies.

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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Death threats!

    Unlike you I don't assume all conservatives are pathological liars, just the crazy ones. Of course you know I never threatened you. You really should see someone for help before you go farther off the edge.

    I implore the moderators to look at my postings, including my PM's and yours. You are the one who stepped over the line, not me. What is odd is all I did was report you breaking the rules, nothing personal. Now you fabricate all this stuff. You might really need some professional help before you start pulling the wings off flies or doing unmentionable things to cats and dogs.
    Like ALL LIBERALS , you're are lying to deny the vile disgusting death threats and other psycho threats that you keep spamming my PM box. You really should seek some help.

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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    This is a lie. Here is my PM:

    I am reporting your infraction concerning the Chavez thread. You really should learn to temper what you say. You don't have to attempt to be the tough guy with every posting.
    Yes that's part of the truth. I give you credit for admitting that you're a forum snitch that whines and cries to mods whenever someone posts something that you agree with but you've gone too far with your additional pms containing death threats. ... seek some help.

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    Re: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    This reporter has been told that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has metastatic rhabdomyosarcoma, an aggressive cancer that has "entered the end stage". The information and the quote come from a highly respected source close to Chavez and who is in a position to know his medical condition and history. This source says the prognosis is dire and that Chavez is now not expected to live "more than a couple of months at most." Chavez is running for re-elec tion in Venezuela but several sources--including the one who revealed the exact kind of cancer-- have told me that they believe it is doubtful the dictator will live to see the results.


    Report: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage' - Yahoo! News
    Damn, that really blows. Despite my personal feelings concerning Chavez, I don't wish cancer on anyone.
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