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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

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    Nope I haven't. Texas is actually one of the very few states that I haven't been to.
    Well, our education system is terrible. The only thing they take seriously is making the numbers look good. The whole thing is basically a huge scam, and complete waste of taxpayer money that's gone so far down the ****ter, the only way to improve it is to burn it all down and start from scratch.
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

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    I have a problem with excessive punishment. I don't know, I missed a lot of time in high school, still graduated with a 4.0. Didn't matter, High School is cake, it requires almost no intelligence to pass.
    Well, again that part of the law is directed at parents. If the parents had been doing thier job as parents then it would never get to the point of a fine. So is it really excessive? I would agree that if it was applied to someone like Ms. Tran it would be excessive. But for parents is it?
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Texas seems to take its schooling responsibilites seriously. I have no problem with that.
    No they really aren't. Simply trying to ensure students attend school or they face punishment no matter what is not taking schooling seriously. Texas schools are some of the worst in the nation.

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    This is just one of several things that Texas schools do not do right, including a law that requires half of school spending to be on administrative overhead and allowing creationism/ID to be taught in school. Texas has the only truancy law like this and it is ridiculous how it is being enforced. If it was actually working, I might say you have a point, but it isn't working. Forcing students to attend school is not the answer because you cannot force them to learn.
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Well, again that part of the law is directed at parents. If the parents had been doing thier job as parents then it would never get to the point of a fine. So is it really excessive? I would agree that if it was applied to someone like Ms. Tran it would be excessive. But for parents is it?
    Or if the school and state would apply some common sense, it wouldn't need to get there.
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Well, again that part of the law is directed at parents. If the parents had been doing thier job as parents then it would never get to the point of a fine. So is it really excessive? I would agree that if it was applied to someone like Ms. Tran it would be excessive. But for parents is it?
    Yes it is. Just because someone may have more money or supposedly should have a stable job or whatever doesn't mean you can increase the fines. 5 grand for skipping school is excessive.
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Again, as I have stated before, there are states which require both the summons AND the judge to inform the person of their rights. If one or the other does not then the person can get off scott free. Technicalities are a pain. If the judge had not informed her of her rights then I'm quite sure that the article would have stated such instead of just saying that the summons didn't. For the simple fact that a judge not informing someone of their rights is far more juicier a story than a summons not doing it.
    I have provided the necessary element according to statute. The judge did not satisfy his requirement pursuant to statute.



    Just fine. What's your point? Judge sentenced her to 1 night of jail for contempt of court then the bailiff arrested her. I see no conflict.

    There could have been no contempt without the predicate act of the contempt itself. That could not have occurred without the judge conducting a hearing on the issue whether Ms. Tran did miss school and where Ms. Tran could rebut the presumption that she did not go to school. It was at that hearing that he should have informed Ms. Tran of her rights.

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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    The judge did not satisfy his requirement pursuant to statute.
    You do not know that.






    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    It was at that hearing that he should have informed Ms. Tran of her rights.
    More that you do not know.

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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I have provided the necessary element according to statute. The judge did not satisfy his requirement pursuant to statute.

    There could have been no contempt without the predicate act of the contempt itself. That could not have occurred without the judge conducting a hearing on the issue whether Ms. Tran did miss school and where Ms. Tran could rebut the presumption that she did not go to school. It was at that hearing that he should have informed Ms. Tran of her rights.
    And once again you have no idea if he informed her or not.
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Ok guys, let's slow down a bit.

    Yes, it sucks she was put in jail and that she's having a damned difficult time in life right now, working a part-time job and a full-time job and caring for her siblings, etc. I was getting pissed and angry while I watched the video, but then the judge stated it wouldn't be fair if exceptions were made for some people, but not for others. If the law is the law, how can we as a society exempt others from it?

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    But then she'd have a criminal record and she's only 17. That's wrong in my eyes.

    Ugh, I don't know how to judge this. She has a heavy workload on her plate, her parents just got divorced, she's being like a mother to her younger brother...

    Maybe an exception should be made. Don't leave this on her record. Those are extraordinary circumstances, and I feel deep down she shouldn't have the burden of a criminal record weighing her down, making life even worse for her.

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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    If the law is the law, how can we as a society exempt others from it?
    How? You have judges whom judge the situation. That's one of the purposes of a judge. Otherwise you just use a computer.
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