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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    You would prefer a $100 fine?
    Actually the truancy law there in Texas requires a $500 dollar fine per absense.
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Um, what does the law say? If school attendence is mandatory, what choice does the judge have? All truants have 'reasons' but the point of the law is not to have judges waste taxpayer money evaluating them, but to force school attendance. If you don't like the law then get it changed, don't blame the police or the judge for enforcing it. Is it OK for the hungry to steal food, the homeless to sleep on your porch, drivers speeding down the roadway in 'emergencies' or for the execution of 'dirtbags' that just plain needed killing?
    Actually it may have been the police's fault this time. The article did say that the summons failed to tell her of her right to an attourney. Which is usually handled by either the police or some court clerk. If it was the police that served the summons then they would be the ones at fault here if anyone is. Though honestly a policeman is usually quite consistant about informing of rights...its one of the constant things that they do so I would bet that it was a court clerk that served the summons.
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Note the bold part there. It was not the judge that failed to provide for the attourney. The summons failed to mention that she had a right to an attourney. So she probably never asked for one. As such that is not the judges fault.
    This was a pro se proceeding the judge had a duty to inform the defendant of her right to an attorney, in addition to other responsibilities as a judge.


    Also the article also does say that...

    "During her court appearance, however, Tran never revealed any personal struggles to the court."

    Remember, the law says that she is the one that has to show reason as to why those absenses should be excused.
    Had Ms. Tran been represented this would have come to light, that is exaclty what occurred.

    In anycase I think that someone should be looking into this families life. It sounds like the dad never actually left...he just works far away and as such is rarely home. That doesn't seem right to me for him to be leaving his kids like this.
    Yes, that has been said many times throughout this thread.

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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually the truancy law there in Texas requires a $500 dollar fine per absense.
    WOW. That is way more than my allowance and I am 58 years old. No wonder she must work two jobs. How often has this fine acually been paid?
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Um, what does the law say? If school attendence is mandatory, what choice does the judge have? All truants have 'reasons' but the point of the law is not to have judges waste taxpayer money evaluating them, but to force school attendance. If you don't like the law then get it changed, don't blame the police or the judge for enforcing it. Is it OK for the hungry to steal food, the homeless to sleep on your porch, drivers speeding down the roadway in 'emergencies' or for the execution of 'dirtbags' that just plain needed killing?
    I honestly don't give a **** what the law says, this is clearly wrong on every level.
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    This was a pro se proceeding the judge had a duty to inform the defendant of her right to an attorney, in addition to other responsibilities as a judge.
    And you have no idea if he did or didn't. There are many states where both the summons and the judge must inform a pro se litigant of their rights. If one is not done then the litigant can get off on the charge. This is done so as to give pro se litigants more of a chance since pro se litigants do not know the law as well as an attourney.
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    WOW. That is way more than my allowance and I am 58 years old. No wonder she must work two jobs. How often has this fine acually been paid?
    No idea. Its just what I read while reading up on the truancy laws. The $500 is usually charged to the parent but since Ms. Tran is considered an adult by Texas law I would imagine that it could have gone to her instead.
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No idea. Its just what I read while reading up on the truancy laws. The $500 is usually charged to the parent but since Ms. Tran is considered an adult by Texas law I would imagine that it could have gone to her instead.
    As a legal adult, she shouldn't even be punished by law for truancy.
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    As a legal adult, she shouldn't even be punished by law for truancy.
    Even an 18 year old can be. And personally I see no problem with it. If they are considered adults and voluntarily sign up to go to school then they should be required to go since it is the taxpayers that are footing the bill for their education. It would be a waste of tax dollars if they signed up to go to school only to continueally miss school days.
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    Re: Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Even an 18 year old can be. And personally I see no problem with it. If they are considered adults and voluntarily sign up to go to school then they should be required to go since it is the taxpayers that are footing the bill for their education. It would be a waste of tax dollars if they signed up to go to school only to continueally miss school days.
    Why is it a waste of money if they are learning what they need to learn? Many schools are actually starting to setup online classes programs so that students don't have to be in school at all, they just have to sign in so much time a week and actually do the work. Isn't it better for the teachers to be able to concentrate on those students who actually need the help instead of having to provide attention to a student like Ms. Tran who apparently knows what she is doing since she is getting good grades?
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