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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    First, I agree with you that we need reasonable spending cuts coupled with tax increases....whether the tax increases are through getting rid of loopholes and havens that allow the super rich and corporations to pay nothing and next to nothing or an increase in tax rate with some loopholes removed.

    I strongly disagree that Social Security and Medicare...are the same as Medicaid and Welfare and Foodstamps....first of all every WORKING american if FORCED into paying for social security and medicare their entire working lives...you are given no choice, they take your money every paycheck.
    We all know welfare and medicaid recpients do not prepay a dime for their benefits...
    Before I agreed to one cent in spending cuts for Working middleclass americans....they MUST stop all foriegn aid and stop all the billions upon billions in subsidies to corporations...especially big oil and farm subsidies and including all the green companies....and to BIG BANKS and never ever give another bailout to any corporation....you want to suck all the profit you can and milk the middle class...then die when you fail all on your own and dont give them my tax money...

    You right wingers got this thing in your head that all the money the govt spends goes to everyone but the rich....THAT IS PURE BOULDERDASH...
    You need to get some perspective. Some 8% of our budget goes into a spending category that is generally called other. Its where a lot of the subsidies are and the spending that goes back into business.

    Ill address two of your point because they are opposite ends of the spectrum. Oil pays more taxes than any other industry in America. No one else is even close and their tax burden approaches 45%. Exxon pays the most at 45% but the rest vary down to around 39%. They get subsidies because government gets a retarded amount of tax revenue from them and everything they do influences everything else. They dont need to pay more---they already pay more than anyone else.

    Farm subsidies, specifically soil banking needs to be cut back. Farm income is up a lot in the last 5 years and they recieve a lot of different subsidies and it permeates in almost every aspect of the Ag Business. Im in a big Ag state and Im saying this. As farm income rises, subsidies should be slowly cut.

    Im going to clue you in though. Farm spending is only 0.50% of the federal budget.
    farmdocdaily: Putting Agricultural Spending Into Perspective

    Think you know energy subsidies? Im betting you dont.
    Think Washington subsidizes Big Oil the most? Think again | Kyle Wingfield
    CBO-energy-subsidies-chart.jpg

    Now Im not going to say oil companies do not recieve tax breaks, they do. They also pay one hell of a lot of taxes. Id be all for eliminating ALL of the subsidies and some of the tax breaks if their tax burden hovered around 35% or so. But we both know government isnt going to do that.

    Secondly that chart shows that green initiatives are spending triple the amount big oil is getting.

    I dont think we should be demonizing big oil, they are a net producer of tax revenue at every level---fed, state, county and local. But I agree there should be an examination of how they are taxed and subsidies (primarily structured as tax breaks).

    Look some of this over lpast, its decent info and you seem like you really dont care about liberal or conservative, just good info.

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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    thank you for being so predictable and for proving exactly what I said about you.

    Your phony concerns are a blatant fraud disguised as a sham in the halloween costume of deceit.
    Back on ignore you go, someone else let me know when his troll turd posts start turning into coherent thoughts, please.

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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Simpson-Bowles was a starting point. It was a downpayment. Much more work was required and is necessary, and that includes mandatory spending program reforms.

    Instead, Washington chose to do even less. Concrete results, not brave talk about fiscal sacrifice, matters and those results were lacking. Now, confronted by what amounts to a minimalist sequester, a number of Washington's policy makers are scrambling to reduce even that small amount of fiscal sacrifice. IMO, the nation would be better served if the sequester, imperfect as it is, goes through if the alternative is more delay on the fiscal front.
    Its an opinion I reckon. Every 3-6 months congress has to sit down and figure out how they are going to 'compromise' an the next debt ceiling increase. Both parties are so invested in reelection and their special interest that 'compromise' means how do we look like we are doing something.

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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Back on ignore you go, someone else let me know when his troll turd posts start turning into coherent thoughts, please.
    So you are unable to actually speak intelligently to the post and you have exposed yourself as a hollow poster wallowing in hypocrisy and now you run away from it.

    Again, you are SOOOOOOOO predictable.
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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Cue post "Simpson is a Liberal" in 3 - 2 - 1.......
    He's not a liberal at all... he's just not keeping up with the times. Sure Simpson Bowles should have been adopted by our President and he failed to do so, to all of our detriment. Obama didn't want to compromise. But compromise is what got us here... today. It's not working out so well this compromising.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post

    President Obama’s stimulus went LARGELY to the 1%...
    LOL! Is that why the 1% have been complaining so about the stimulus spending???
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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I absolutely agree with him...

    Former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.) lashed out at members of his party on Sunday, slamming them for their unwillingness to compromise on proposed tax increases.
    First of all he is a RINO,Perhaps that is why is a Former Sen.Alan Simpson and not Sen.Alen Simpson.

    Second the federal government shouldn't get one more dime until it makes every cut it can. Giving more money to someone who has a spending problem only makes the problem worse. It doesn't solve the problem. Promising to cut only a dollar when you still are spending a 100 bucks over budget and wanting more money doesn't solve the problem. Make actual significant cuts and then talk tax increases.
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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    ...Second the federal government shouldn't get one more dime until it makes every cut it can....
    why?

    what crisis are we approaching?

    interest on the debt is still below 7% of the federal budget. so where is the crisis?



    what I think is going on is that Conservatives HATE entitlements, whether we can afford them or not, and have manufactured this crisis to scare the American people.

    but this crisis..is a faux crisis.
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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    why?

    what crisis are we approaching?

    interest on the debt is still below 7% of the federal budget. so where is the crisis?



    what I think is going on is that Conservatives HATE entitlements, whether we can afford them or not, and have manufactured this crisis to scare the American people.

    but this crisis..is a faux crisis.

    I don't think they hate them, its just money they feel should go to the rich instead through more tax cuts and increased military spending. I would say rather than hating, they just don't give a rat's ass about the poor and the seniors.
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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    LOL! Is that why the 1% have been complaining so about the stimulus spending???
    Well…technically no (sarcasm noted). But one has to wonder why the 99% (including you) think it was such a grand thing…

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