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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL The ENTIRE HC bill was a Republican idea from the 90's including the mandate. McConnel said from the start that the GOP's only goal was to make Obama a 1 term President.
    The teaparty has alot of one issue Poor and working class people supporting them...not nearly as many as a year ago...the one issue can be guns, against gay marriage, against abortion...you know the routine and the agendas...When the teaparty first started it was a "RALLY" against obamacare...that was successful because senior citizens in droves who were anti obamacare. They didnt like the way Pelosi did it and they didnt like taking 400billion out of medicare and they believed it would kill medicare...but that wasnt the purpose of the original organizers and it soon became evident what they were all about...then guys like me that participate din 3 early teaparty rallies...said screw this and bailed....Paul Ryan made it clear what the teaparty is about...destroying medicare and social security and giving huge tax cuts to the rich...Whether its a year or two...they will fail

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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    The teaparty has alot of one issue Poor and working class people supporting them...not nearly as many as a year ago...the one issue can be guns, against gay marriage, against abortion...you know the routine and the agendas...When the teaparty first started it was a "RALLY" against obamacare...that was successful because senior citizens in droves who were anti obamacare. They didnt like the way Pelosi did it and they didnt like taking 400billion out of medicare and they believed it would kill medicare...but that wasnt the purpose of the original organizers and it soon became evident what they were all about...then guys like me that participate din 3 early teaparty rallies...said screw this and bailed....Paul Ryan made it clear what the teaparty is about...destroying medicare and social security and giving huge tax cuts to the rich...Whether its a year or two...they will fail
    Says you and I'm sure that's your hope. Doesn't mean that will be what happens... nothing indicates a failure to me. They've been around for more than 4 years so far and have steadily gained ground, my hope is they will continue to do so.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Says you and I'm sure that's your hope. Doesn't mean that will be what happens... nothing indicates a failure to me. They've been around for more than 4 years so far and have steadily gained ground, my hope is they will continue to do so.
    Your wrong and your obviously just a cheerleader that bases that on what YOU HOPE...im not going to run around and re post all the evidence that there is big time in fighting going on in the gop and that several prominent gopers and gop columnists that have come out and said this hardball pledge will backfire...and that the teaparty faction of the house is whats keeping anything from getting accomplished.
    Now if you just want to write posts with merely YOUR OPINION go for it...just know your dead arse wrong

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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    And your post is a shined up turd.

    Defense spending is around 15%, entitlements are over 65%. Which one is it more important we get under control?

    Im for means testing and have stated so several times.

    Do you ever get tired of being so wrong?
    thank you for being so predictable and for proving exactly what I said about you.

    Your phony concerns are a blatant fraud disguised as a sham in the halloween costume of deceit.
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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Your wrong and your obviously just a cheerleader that bases that on what YOU HOPE...im not going to run around and re post all the evidence that there is big time in fighting going on in the gop and that several prominent gopers and gop columnists that have come out and said this hardball pledge will backfire...and that the teaparty faction of the house is whats keeping anything from getting accomplished.
    Now if you just want to write posts with merely YOUR OPINION go for it...just know your dead arse wrong
    Time will tell... so far, the tea party has stuck around and is gaining ground. So far I'm dead arse right.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Time will tell... so far, the tea party has stuck around and is gaining ground. So far I'm dead arse right.
    No your wrong and they have lost alot of ground...but like I said im not going to repost all the articles and media stories ive posted again...
    This thread is just one of several Ive posted showing GOP infighting and the table turning on the far right....

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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Former Senator Simpson's frustration is the result of the United States' having moved into an era where adherence to political ideology has displaced the willingness and ability of political leaders to pursue their responsibilities of office. The gap between the demands of fiscal problem-solving and ideology represent a growing weakness in the nation's political system. S&P rightly pointed to the nation's political defects, namely the inability and unwillingness of its political leaders to make the decisions necessary to begin to tackle its fiscal challenges, in downgrading the nation's credit rating.

    In that context, political posturing has increasingly become the litmus test of who is or is not fiscally responsible. Concrete policy changes and the sacrifices involved are punted time and again to the future in a deferral of leadership responsibility. The continuing absence of a transformational leader has undoubtedly contributed to this situation. Nonetheless, there's more that could and should have been done with even adequate leadership. The Simpson-Bowles Commission did some heavy lifting in laying out a credible downpayment on fiscal consolidation. Yet, even that modest plan proved too much for contemporary Washington.

    For now, the combination of the nation's still formidable level of debt intolerance and fiscal crises in parts of Europe, has allowed it to continue enjoy a sort of extended fiscal honeymoon. Today, the U.S. still benefits from abnormally low interest rates and placid debt market conditions that do not fully reflect its mounting long-term fiscal challenges. But no honeymoon is indefinite if the factors necessary to sustain it are neglected. No nations have found infinite debt intolerance. If contemporary U.S. leaders believe the U.S. is an exception, they not only blantantly misread history, but also plant the seeds of a future crisis.

    In the end, when analyzing the quality of Washington's leadership, the process undertaken, and the choices made (namely to largely forego fiscal consolidation), S&P was not impressed. Senator Simpson is understandably frustrated. Posturing, even if pontificating loudly on the virtues of fiscal discipline or need for fiscal discipline, is not a substitute for concrete policy. It is not an act of leadership. Launching a concrete policy strategy that begins to tackle the nation's fiscal challenges, even if it requires concessions to the other side, would be an act of leadership. To date, that leadership has not been forthcoming. Instead, a lot of creative excuses have been made.

    Is U.S. leadership, particularly on fiscal issues, third-rate, so to speak? That is the implicit issue is at the heart of Senator Simpson's criticism. The former Senator believes--and I agree with him--that the U.S. could and should have done far more than it has on the fiscal front, but rather than choosing to address reality's challenges, too many of its political leaders have embraced ideology as a de facto excuse to avoid making tough choices. I don't believe U.S. leadership, even with the current lack of a once-in-a-generation-type transformational leader, is third-rate. Unfortunately, Washington is maintaining the kind of fiscal course that would be pursued by third-rate leaders.
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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Simpson/Bowles SHOULD have been rejected. While tax increases are needed, REAL spending cuts have to be addressed. Offering to cut 4 trillion in DEFICIT spending over 10 years is moronic when we as a nation are hitting 2 and 3 trillion dollar deficits ANNUALLY. At the current pace and being GENEROUS, we can expect at LEAST 13 trillion in added debt due to deficit spending. The 'magnanimous' offer to reduce that by a whopping 4 trillion still guarantees massive debt increases that future generations are going to be stuck with and that is IF they bother to actually stick to the deficit 'cuts'. Considering the senate cant even pass a BUDGET and hasnt in 3 years, you would have to be a moron to trust them. Sadly...a whole lot of people actually do.

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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Simpson/Bowles SHOULD have been rejected. While tax increases are needed, REAL spending cuts have to be addressed. Offering to cut 4 trillion in DEFICIT spending over 10 years is moronic when we as a nation are hitting 2 and 3 trillion dollar deficits ANNUALLY.
    Simpson-Bowles was a starting point. It was a downpayment. Much more work was required and is necessary, and that includes mandatory spending program reforms.

    Instead, Washington chose to do even less. Concrete results, not brave talk about fiscal sacrifice, matters and those results were lacking. Now, confronted by what amounts to a minimalist sequester, a number of Washington's policy makers are scrambling to reduce even that small amount of fiscal sacrifice. IMO, the nation would be better served if the sequester, imperfect as it is, goes through if the alternative is more delay on the fiscal front.

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    Re: Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I absolutely agree with him...

    Former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.) lashed out at members of his party on Sunday, slamming them for their unwillingness to compromise on proposed tax increases.



    Former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.) lashed out at members of his party on Sunday, slamming them for their unwillingness to compromise on proposed tax increases.
    In his characteristically colorful style, Simpson told CNN's Fareed Zakaria that Republicans' rigid opposition to new tax revenues has hampered productivity and diminished the chances of reaching an agreement with Democrats on debt reduction.


    Simpson continued: "If you want to be a purist, go somewhere on a mountaintop and praise the east or something. But if you want to be in politics, you learn to compromise. And you learn to compromise on the issue without compromising yourself. Show me a guy who wont compromise and Ill show you a guy with rock for brains."

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