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Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

Grim17 said:
I'll do you one better than that... Look at line 5:

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Now you might want to go HERE and pay close attention to the address of the defendant...

Would you say that a retraction on your part is in order?
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OK, now post a link that says a convicted felon can not sign a petition

And since my no assertion about Kari Tha, I have nothing to retract.

Now go scurry about and find a link that says a convicted felon can not sign a petition
 
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CriticalThought said:
Petitioner fraud? Is that a thing? Can we bring back burning on the stake for it?
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Yes, that's the ticket boys and girls... Anything to avoid dealing with the dishonesty and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters.
 
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sangha said:
OK, now post a link that says a convicted felon can not sign a petition

And since my no assertion about Kari Tha, I have nothing to retract.

Now go scurry about and find a link that says a convicted felon can not sign a petition
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Already did... You will find it on post #1

About that retraction?
 
Grim17 said:
Yes, that's the ticket boys and girls... Anything to avoid dealing with the dishonesty and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters.
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I don't live in Wisconsin. I'm just tickled pink by how silly this all is. Moral standards? You assume that they knew the people signing were felons or that they sought them out. That is going a bit beyond what the evidence supports Grimy.
 
Grim17 said:
Yes, that's the ticket boys and girls... Anything to avoid dealing with the dishonesty and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters.
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So you're backing away from your claims of voter fraud, and now you're going to get all worked up about "immoral petition signing"?
 
Grim17 said:
Yes, that's the ticket boys and girls... Anything to avoid dealing with the dishonesty and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters.
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Do you remember in December of last year when Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, Huntsman, and Gingrich failed to get on the Virginia primary ballot, since they did not get enough signatures to get on the ballot (because ultimately some of those signatures were invalid? Nearly half of Perry's signatures were struck down because they were invalid.) Are GOP Presidential candidates thus guilty of "voter fraud"? This is how absolutely ridiculous your claim is.

If a petition contains invalid signatures, then those signatures will simply be invalidated by whomever is responsible for validating them. Now you might have a case of fraud if you had cited an article where somehow those who were doing the validating were intentionally inflating the number of valid signatures, or passing off signatures that should be invalid as valid, but that's not what you've shown here.
 
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Grim17 said:
Yes, that's the ticket boys and girls... Anything to avoid dealing with the dishonesty and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters.
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I've never seen you condemn voter suppression carried out by Republicans. Why wont you deal with the dishonest and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters?
 
CriticalThought said:
I don't live in Wisconsin. I'm just tickled pink by how silly this all is. Moral standards? You assume that they knew the people signing were felons or that they sought them out. That is going a bit beyond what the evidence supports Grimy.
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Maybe I will dig up the video footage of one of the people who was collecting signitures and even let kids sign it.

If this blog could determine these things, then surely the democrats could have also... That is, if they actually gave a rats ass about honesty, integrity and the law.
 
Grim:

How many times do we have to explain the difference between "voter fraud" and voter registration fraud -- which is really just a clerical annoyance.
 
sangha said:
Umm, that was pretty dishonest

Post #1 does not say that felons can't sign petitions
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How old are you?

Do you know what a link is?

Can you read?

Click the link to the democratic party of Wisconsin
 
sangha said:
So you're backing away from your claims of voter fraud, and now you're going to get all worked up about "immoral petition signing"?
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How's that retraction coming along?
 
Deuce said:
I've never seen you condemn voter suppression carried out by Republicans. Why wont you deal with the dishonest and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters?
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Link me to the stories where Republicans were convicted of voter suppression, and I will gladly comment on them.
 
Grim17 said:
Yes, that's the ticket boys and girls... Anything to avoid dealing with the dishonesty and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters.
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No, Grim, what's dishonest is your characterization of something that isn't at all fraud, or have anything to do with voting, as "voter fraud."
 
StillBallin75 said:
No, Grim, what's dishonest is your characterization of something that isn't at all fraud, or have anything to do with voting, as "voter fraud."
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So I made a mistake in classifying the fraud?

Does that mean the story is invalid and this crap didn't happen?

Is my mistake really a bigger issue than what took place in Wisconsin?
 
Grim17 said:
So I made a mistake in classifying the fraud?
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No, it means this is not fraud. Nor was it a vote. So your characterization of this as "voter fraud" is either wrong, stupid, dishonest, or some combination of the three.

Does that mean the story is invalid and this crap didn't happen?
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No, once again, it means that this isn't fraud.

Is my mistake really a bigger issue than what took place in Wisconsin?
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No, any more straw men you'd like to build?
 
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Grim17 said:
So I made a mistake in classifying the fraud?

Does that mean the story is invalid and this crap didn't happen?

Is my mistake really a bigger issue than what took place in Wisconsin?
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What really happened in Wisconsin, was that 1 Million signatures were gathered for the recall and supposedly only 2% of them were judged by partisans as fraudulent. Please prove the ones found were not already thrown out and not count in the million count.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Isn't that - I don't know - wrong and illegal to post someone's private information like that on the net? Her name, address, personal criminal history, petitioning - should any of this even *be* our business?
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Nope, just like for sex offenders, criminal records are considered public information. I can go down to your local courthouse and get everything I want on you. You can't stop me either. If they were private you wouldn't have websites dedicated to charging you to run criminal background checks on people.
 
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CriticalThought said:
Um...so after they spent all this money you want them to go through it all again so they lose more money? It doesn't sound like people are very confident that Walker is going to win. What is wrong with a referendum on Walker's policies up to date. I thought conservative's liked hearing the "will of the people" on all issues.
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We the felons is not we the people.
 
Are you sure this is a felony charge? Might be a misdemeanor which doesn't affect civil rights. I don't know, I'm just wondering. I have no opinion on voter fraud but I do know about civil rights issues and criminal cases.

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specklebang said:
Are you sure this is a felony charge? Might be a misdemeanor which doesn't affect civil rights. I don't know, I'm just wondering. I have no opinion on voter fraud but I do know about civil rights issues and criminal cases.

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Just click the links on post 1... and before I become the topic once again, I was wrong about the voter fraud claim. It is fraud of some sort by someone though... even though aparantly mislabeling it means it never really happened or something.
 
Grim17 said:
Just click the links on post 1... and before I become the topic once again, I was wrong about the voter fraud claim. It is fraud of some sort by someone though... even though aparantly mislabeling it means it never really happened or something.
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There is no fraud here Grim.

Wisconsin law says these folks cannot vote, Right?

That means they need a sophisticated software system that match and eliminate these people from the voter rolls before an election, right?

Most of the people on the list probably were registered to vote before they got in to trouble with the law. So when the petitioners asked them if they were registered to vote, they naturally said "yes" and signed the petition. They might in fact may not realize they could not vote.em

So this computer system caught them which is what it supposed to do.
 
Yup. You are correct. She can't vote. But can she sign a petition? Kind of doubtful.

Grim17 said:
Just click the links on post 1... and before I become the topic once again, I was wrong about the voter fraud claim. It is fraud of some sort by someone though... even though aparantly mislabeling it means it never really happened or something.
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TurtleDude said:
I am not making an assertion of fact=you are

and vote fraud is a peculiarly leftwing vice
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Damn! Talk about fraudulent. The Democratic Party of Wisconsin actually made the voting disappear.
 
sangha said:
No, it's just another dishonest claim from some wingnut on the internet

Even if they did what the article claims they did, it proves nothing. All they did was match names. The fact that someone has the same name as a felon doesn't mean that they are a felon
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It did in Florida in 2000. 18,000 eligible voters scrubbed from the roles.
 
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