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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    All assertions that my web site is wrong, doesn't match properly or isn't matching names and addresses is false! The matching works. Over 400,000 cases and charges have been matched to just over 900,000 signature lines on the petitions. (yes - nobody turned in 'over a million')

    To side track about if voting, or signing, as a convicted felon misses the point. The point is this is a PUBLIC PROCESS! Signing a recall petition is a PUBLIC DECLARATION that you, as a citizen, want to recall legally cast votes in a previous election. This PUBLIC DECLARATION is stated on the top of every petition and the signer is standing in front of his, or her. community to make this DECLARATION. Signing a petition is NOT A VOTE! It is a declaration of the desire to take away votes of other people and overturn a legally binding election.

    This web site is doing nothing more than patching PUBLIC DECLARATIONS to PUBLIC RECORDS, on a name and address basis. The interpretation of the results is up to you to debate but to attack the web site is stupidity at its finest. The facts are the facts. You can all twist and turn about what the results mean but acting as if these matches are false, demanding "proof", or simply playing the old "fingers in your ears" game and pretending facts are lies only makes you look silly because, as anyone with 5 minutes of time can see, the web site works. It lists what it says it does and is not filled with mismatches (as much as some of you would like to claim).

    http://www.putwisconsinfirst.com/

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    But that signature would be thrown out during the validation process.
    I think you mean "should be". Only looking at the petitions, in an open process, by everyone would make this possible.

    Why was this one not "thrown out":

    Signed FROM a mental institution, where he resides because of a conviction of 1st degree intentional homicide -

    Recaller Report - MARSHALL R RICHARDS : 3 elements of interest.

    Signed from: 301 Troy Drive, Mendota Mental Health Institute, Madison, WI 53704-1521
    Self witnessed!

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Ahhh, still can't prove that there was any voter fraud, or anything illegal.

    Your posts have the stench of desperation
    It was not voter fraud, but I did prove there was something illegal.

    Now are you going to retract your statement, or are you a partisan coward that puts politics above the truth and doing what's right?

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Where is the VOTE FRAUD in this?

    What votes were cast in what election and were cast fraudulently?
    this has nothing to do with voter fraud.

    the OP is dishonest.

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    As per Wis. Stat. 9.10(2)(g):

    The burden of proof for any challenge rests with the individual bringing the challenge.
    As per Wis. Stat. 9.10(2)(L):

    If a challenger establishes that an individual is ineligible to sign the petition, the signature may not be counted.
    The Republicans did not propose that these be reviewed for rejection, meaning that this entire thread is completely pointless and irrelevant. Take it up with Walker and his buddies, Grim.

    EDIT: For those actually interested, even if this is true, this as far as I could find does not constitute electoral fraud as a convicted felon is not casting a ballot. I couldn't find anything in Wis. Stat. 12.13 that says this is illegal.
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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    This is quite interesting, because it looks like the democrats might be involved in a little voter fraud:
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...all-petitions/
    I did some checking, and according to Wisconsin law, people with felony convictions are barred from voting if incarcerated, on parole, or on probation for those crimes. So just for kicks, I looked at the list of people who committed felonies and decided to check the status of the very first person on the list, Kari A Tha, and sure enough, she is still on probation until at least mid 2013 for her 2005 felony conviction, which she served a year in prison for.
    This means she's not eligable to vote in the state of Wisconsin, and according to the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, "Petition signers must reside in the district of the elected official being recalled and be eligible to vote in Wisconsin."
    Voter fraud anyone?
    Is signing a petition actually the same thing as voting?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Did they REALLY research everyone's information?
    That's amazing.
    My understanding about petitions is that groups generally shoot for much more than is required because it's very, very common to collect a bunch of sigs which will not count for a variety of reasons.
    So there's a verification process. Idk who does it or when, but I know it happens all the time.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    My understanding about petitions is that groups generally shoot for much more than is required because it's very, very common to collect a bunch of sigs which will not count for a variety of reasons.
    So there's a verification process. Idk who does it or when, but I know it happens all the time.
    True. The only thing that Grim has shown is that this petition, like every other petition, was signed by some people who were not qualified to sign the petition.
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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Is signing a petition actually the same thing as voting?
    no, its clearly not.

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    Attn2 Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    It was not voter fraud, but I did prove there was something illegal.

    Now are you going to retract your statement, or are you a partisan coward that puts politics above the truth and doing what's right?
    No, you have not proven a damn thing:

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There is no fraud here Grim.

    Wisconsin law says these folks cannot vote, Right?

    That means they need a sophisticated software system that match and eliminate these people from the voter rolls before an election, right?

    Most of the people on the list probably were registered to vote before they got in to trouble with the law. So when the petitioners asked them if they were registered to vote, they naturally said "yes" and signed the petition. They might in fact may not realize they could not vote.em

    So this computer system caught them which is what it supposed to do.
    Plus you also say 20,000 people were involved which is obviously not true.

    You baselessly blame the Democrats for this, so it is YOU who is putting politics before the truth.


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