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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Already did... You will find it on post #1

    About that retraction?
    Umm, that was pretty dishonest

    Post #1 does not say that felons can't sign petitions
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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Yes, that's the ticket boys and girls... Anything to avoid dealing with the dishonesty and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters.
    Do you remember in December of last year when Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, Huntsman, and Gingrich failed to get on the Virginia primary ballot, since they did not get enough signatures to get on the ballot (because ultimately some of those signatures were invalid? Nearly half of Perry's signatures were struck down because they were invalid.) Are GOP Presidential candidates thus guilty of "voter fraud"? This is how absolutely ridiculous your claim is.

    If a petition contains invalid signatures, then those signatures will simply be invalidated by whomever is responsible for validating them. Now you might have a case of fraud if you had cited an article where somehow those who were doing the validating were intentionally inflating the number of valid signatures, or passing off signatures that should be invalid as valid, but that's not what you've shown here.
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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Yes, that's the ticket boys and girls... Anything to avoid dealing with the dishonesty and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters.
    I've never seen you condemn voter suppression carried out by Republicans. Why wont you deal with the dishonest and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters?
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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I don't live in Wisconsin. I'm just tickled pink by how silly this all is. Moral standards? You assume that they knew the people signing were felons or that they sought them out. That is going a bit beyond what the evidence supports Grimy.
    Maybe I will dig up the video footage of one of the people who was collecting signitures and even let kids sign it.

    If this blog could determine these things, then surely the democrats could have also... That is, if they actually gave a rats ass about honesty, integrity and the law.

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Grim:

    How many times do we have to explain the difference between "voter fraud" and voter registration fraud -- which is really just a clerical annoyance.

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Umm, that was pretty dishonest

    Post #1 does not say that felons can't sign petitions
    How old are you?

    Do you know what a link is?

    Can you read?

    Click the link to the democratic party of Wisconsin

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you're backing away from your claims of voter fraud, and now you're going to get all worked up about "immoral petition signing"?
    How's that retraction coming along?

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I've never seen you condemn voter suppression carried out by Republicans. Why wont you deal with the dishonest and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters?
    Link me to the stories where Republicans were convicted of voter suppression, and I will gladly comment on them.

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Yes, that's the ticket boys and girls... Anything to avoid dealing with the dishonesty and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters.
    No, Grim, what's dishonest is your characterization of something that isn't at all fraud, or have anything to do with voting, as "voter fraud."
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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    No, Grim, what's dishonest is your characterization of something that isn't at all fraud, or have anything to do with voting, as "voter fraud."
    So I made a mistake in classifying the fraud?

    Does that mean the story is invalid and this crap didn't happen?

    Is my mistake really a bigger issue than what took place in Wisconsin?

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