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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Maybe I will dig up the video footage of one of the people who was collecting signitures and even let kids sign it.

    If this blog could determine these things, then surely the democrats could have also... That is, if they actually gave a rats ass about honesty, integrity and the law.
    Face it Grim, neither you nor Jim understood what you were looking; you were fooled!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO

    Kari A Tha was listed three times, do you know why??? Because she had 3 convictions, but she only signed the petition once. Clearly those people who developed the list don't much about IT (data processing).


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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    How's that retraction coming along?
    When are YOU going to retract this whole thread, Grim? I need to remind you said in your OP this:

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    This is quite interesting, because it looks like the democrats might be involved in a little voter fraud:
    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO

    Kari A Tha was listed three times, do you know why??? Because she had 3 convictions, but she only signed the petition once. Clearly those people who developed the list don't much about IT (data processing).


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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    So I made a mistake in classifying the fraud?

    Does that mean the story is invalid and this crap didn't happen?

    Is my mistake really a bigger issue than what took place in Wisconsin?
    The issue is that you don't know WTF you are talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO

    Kari A Tha was listed three times, do you know why??? Because she had 3 convictions, but she only signed the petition once. Clearly those people who developed the list don't much about IT (data processing).


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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Just click the links on post 1... and before I become the topic once again, I was wrong about the voter fraud claim. It is fraud of some sort by someone though... even though aparantly mislabeling it means it never really happened or something.
    The problem, Grim, is YOU got fooled by The Gateway Pundit.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO

    Kari A Tha was listed three times, do you know why??? Because she had 3 convictions, but she only signed the petition once. Clearly those people who developed the list don't much about IT (data processing).


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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    It was not voter fraud, but I did prove there was something illegal.

    Now are you going to retract your statement, or are you a partisan coward that puts politics above the truth and doing what's right?
    Bold: a question you should be asking yourself. :


    The facts are that some people lied to the signature gatherers and said they were not felons, but certainly not 20,000 as you claimed. The signature gatherers can't be held responsible for the lies of the petition signers. The number of times they appear on the list is more a reflection on how many convictions they've had as I've pointed out:

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO

    Kari A Tha was listed three times, do you know why??? Because she had 3 convictions, but she only signed the petition once. Clearly those people who developed the list don't much about IT (data processing).


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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Oh yes I did... Now why don't you crawl back under that rock of yours, because discussing this with you is a waste of my time.
    Once again, what did you prove, Grim? Could it be your are nothing more than a partisan hack that puts politics before the the truth?

    Once again:

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO

    Kari A Tha was listed three times, do you know why??? Because she had 3 convictions, but she only signed the petition once. Clearly those people who developed the list don't much about IT (data processing).


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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Could we please stop the knee jerk reaction by all the right wingnut attempting to fling poo at the much conservo-beloved "will of the people"?

    Grim went off the reservation with his post, much ado about nothing, considering the right wing isn't a saint itself when it comes to actual voter fraud.

    As pointed out above, trying to claim roughly half the folks signing a petition come up in a court search does nothing to actually prove these people are not eligible to sign/vote, hell any landlord suing to evict a default tenant would come up on that list if it was any court record.

    Rather than dance around the fringes of this as if it mattered a lick, why not just admit some highly partisan folks in here will grasp any straw they can, no matter how obvious the deceit involved?

    It is very telling this thread started as fire and brimstone with outrage and indignation over hundreds of thousands of 'felons' committing 'voter fraud' in a already certified petition drive...

    to die off as sour grapes whimpering over a handful at best of 900,000 names. From felons and voter fraud to 'well technically' and if anyone would actually prosecute anyone over this...

    Fire and umbrage to.... whimpers....

    I love this forum!!!!
    Bolded is a personal attack on any right leaning poster in this thread. Post reported.

    Your post is disingenuous. Im not arguing techinically, Im arguing in fact about exactly what is fraud. According to what Hoft reported, Im sure there are some falsified names upon that petition from ineligible voters. Which kind of highlights a problem regarding voter fraud convictions: they are notoriously hard to prove, not followed up on properly for proscecution and thus they remain rare instances when we have instances like this that hint an independent investigation by law enforcement is warranted.

    Pete, it is illegal by the definition set into the statute, if a person signs a petition for recall in Wisconsin that they are ineligible for, they are committing a crime. A misdemeanor, but still a crime.

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Wow... You are a blatant liar and seem to be proud of it... Oh, and that is not an attack, it is a fact that I will prove right now.





    Here's the evidence:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1060526618




    The laws for Wisconsin are located here, which states that a convicted felon on probation is not eligable to vote:

    State Felon Voting Laws - Felon Voting - ProCon.org


    From the Democratic Party of Wisconsin:

    Q: Who can sign a recall petition?

    Petition signers must reside in the district of the elected official being recalled and be eligible to vote in Wisconsin.



    And finally, this is the court document proving that Kari is on probation at least until mid 2013:

    Charge Details for 2005CF001914 in Dane County


    Like I said, calling you a liar is not an attack, but a proven fact...
    I'll give this one to you, Grim, she is not eligible to vote, however the petitions gatherers can't be responsible for the lies of the signers of the petitions. Be careful when you someone else a liar, you might just get in trouble here at DP for doing it.
    A reminder:

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO

    Kari A Tha was listed three times, do you know why??? Because she had 3 convictions, but she only signed the petition once. Clearly those people who developed the list don't much about IT (data processing).


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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Kari A Tha was listed three times, do you know why??? Because she had 3 convictions, but she only signed the petition once. Clearly those people who developed the list don't much about IT (data processing).
    Apparently they knew more than the people who didnt catch she was a felon for the initial processing. shrug

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Due to our resident conservative lawyer bailing that damn quick in the thread I'd say the stink being raised by our favorite Grim is silly at best. More like sour grapes and bitter partisanship.

    Let me see if my Okie ass understands this-
    20,000 of 900,000 MAY be felons not eligible to vote but far more than enough to call for a new vote have been CERTIFIED.

    So some highly partisan whiners will throw anything against the wall and hope it sticks.

    It didn't
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Oh, it's much worse than that:


    So, as we can clearly see, over four hundred thousand criminals or accused criminals signed those petitions....
    Relax, the 20,000 and 400,000 figures are bogus. They represent the total number of convictions all those people who lied and signed the petition.

    If you look at the following LIST, you will see that Daniel Coughlin appears on the list 10 times, but all with the same PWF Signer ID : 100011303. So, the counts will reflect 10 instead of just one. It would be interesting to know how many felons actually signed the petitions, but there in no way to know that from this vantage point.

    Now, will Grim admit he is 98% wrong with this thread? Somehow I doubt it.


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