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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost
    Read the bold. Whether I like or dislike Grim's story, flasifying any information on a petition is, in fact, against the law in Wisconsin. Whether its prosecuted or not is an entirely different kettle of fish.
    Except that nobody falsified any information. They provided truthful information.
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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Except that nobody falsified any information. They provided truthful information.
    http://www.madisonteachers.org/wp-co...er-Revised.pdf

    Important rules to keep in mind when collecting signatures
    To recall Governor Scott Walker and Lt. Governor Rebecca Kleefisch, we must collect 540,208 signatures in two distinct
    petition drives. Understanding the requirements of circulating petitions and certifying valid signatures is critical to
    ensure that volunteer efforts and signatures are not wasted. The guidelines below can help you understand what is
    expected for recall signature gathering.
    Circulators:
    A “circulator” is a person who witnesses and collects the petitioner’s signature or signatures on a recall petition. A
    circulator can be any eligible voter in the state of Wisconsin.
    1. Must be over 18 years old,
    2. A U.S. citizen or national,
    3. Not a felon still serving a sentence,
    4. Been a resident of Wisconsin for at least 28 days.
    You DO NOT have to be registered to vote to be a petition circulator, only eligible.
    Petitioners (aka “Signers”):
    A “petitioner” is a person who signs a petition in one of the ten numbered spots, affirming that they support the recall of
    Scott Walker from the office of governor (and Rebecca Kleefisch from the office of Lt. Governor on a second petition).
    Any eligible voter in the state of Wisconsin can sign petitions. These are the same requirements for being a “Circulator”
    (see above). A petitioner does NOT need to be a registered voter to sign—only eligible to vote in the next statewide
    election. An ID is NOT required to sign the petition.
    Circulating Guidelines:
    Circulators can circulate freely in public and on public property; they may circulate on private property with permission.
    They may also canvass door to door, as collecting signatures is organized political activity—NOT solicitation.
    Ask if the person has already signed a petition. Duplicate signatures will not be thrown out but only one can be counted
    toward the recall. Encouraging duplicate signatures may complicate the efforts to tabulate the number needed but if
    the person is uncertain, they may sign a second petition without penalty.
    The Circulator must personally witness each of the signatures on the petition. You may not leave recall petitions
    unattended on a table, in a lounge, on a bulletin board, etc. and ask people to sign. You must be present when each
    person signs the petition. You may not use school property (copiers, computers, phones, email, etc) to assist in the
    recall efforts. Do not obtain signatures or perform recall activities during contract time.
    A person can serve as both circulator and signer—i.e. they can witness their own petition. This means that someone
    can download the petition from the website (Splash2) sign it as both a petitioner and circulator, and
    mail it in.
    Obtaining a Valid Signature
    Each valid petitioner’s signature requires four pieces of information on the petition:
    1. A signature or mark made by the signer
    2. A viable house number and street address, or rural route (Note: PO Box addresses without a home street
    address will be disqualified)
    3. A MUNICIPALITY of residence in the state of Wisconsin (i.e. where they vote, which may not be the same as
    where they get their mail).
    4. Ensure that the box is checked indicating whether the municipality is a City, Village or Town.
    5. The signature must be dated within the 60‐day collection period
    Certifying the Petition
    After you have obtained the signatures, review the information for accuracy and completeness. If you discover errors in
    your review, first ask the petitioner to make the correction. If the petitioner is no longer accessible, you can make
    corrections to the information on the petition EXCEPT for the “Signatures of Electors” section. If a change is warranted,
    the correction should be initialed by the Circulator. Only the circulator of the petition can make corrections to the
    information if it is found to be in error or incomplete.
    Before the petition can be counted as valid, you must complete the Certification of Circulator section at the bottom of
    the petition. By certifying the petition, the circulator acknowledges that he or she is aware that falsifying the
    certification is punishable under §12.13(3) (a), Wis. Stats.
    Failure to correctly certify the petition will result in the disqualification of all signatures on the petition. This is very
    important!
    Short version---people signing a petition are certifying they are eligible to vote; felons are not eligible to vote; they are falsifying a petition and committing election fraud under the Wisconsin statute. This is only true if what Gateway Pundit alleges is true and Im sure some of it is, Im also just as sure not all of it is.

    Can we please drop the knee jerk reaction about whether its legal or not to sign a petition if you are not a legal, eligible voter? It clearly is not legal.

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Could we please stop the knee jerk reaction by all the right wingnut attempting to fling poo at the much conservo-beloved "will of the people"?

    Grim went off the reservation with his post, much ado about nothing, considering the right wing isn't a saint itself when it comes to actual voter fraud.

    As pointed out above, trying to claim roughly half the folks signing a petition come up in a court search does nothing to actually prove these people are not eligible to sign/vote, hell any landlord suing to evict a default tenant would come up on that list if it was any court record.

    Rather than dance around the fringes of this as if it mattered a lick, why not just admit some highly partisan folks in here will grasp any straw they can, no matter how obvious the deceit involved?

    It is very telling this thread started as fire and brimstone with outrage and indignation over hundreds of thousands of 'felons' committing 'voter fraud' in a already certified petition drive...

    to die off as sour grapes whimpering over a handful at best of 900,000 names. From felons and voter fraud to 'well technically' and if anyone would actually prosecute anyone over this...

    Fire and umbrage to.... whimpers....

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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    http://www.madisonteachers.org/wp-co...er-Revised.pdf



    Short version---people signing a petition are certifying they are eligible to vote; felons are not eligible to vote; they are falsifying a petition and committing election fraud under the Wisconsin statute. This is only true if what Gateway Pundit alleges is true and Im sure some of it is, Im also just as sure not all of it is.

    Can we please drop the knee jerk reaction about whether its legal or not to sign a petition if you are not a legal, eligible voter? It clearly is not legal.
    Those are instructions and guidelines each signature gatherer need to follow - if you read the bottom of each petition, the petitioner must certify and sign that they followed the correct procedures in gathering the signatures for that petition. In short the signature gatherer is required to ask the questions, but has no control over the truthfulness of individual signers.


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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    This is quite interesting, because it looks like the democrats might be involved in a little voter fraud:



    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...all-petitions/


    I did some checking, and according to Wisconsin law, people with felony convictions are barred from voting if incarcerated, on parole, or on probation for those crimes. So just for kicks, I looked at the list of people who committed felonies and decided to check the status of the very first person on the list, Kari A Tha, and sure enough, she is still on probation until at least mid 2013 for her 2005 felony conviction, which she served a year in prison for.

    This means she's not eligable to vote in the state of Wisconsin, and according to the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, "Petition signers must reside in the district of the elected official being recalled and be eligible to vote in Wisconsin."

    Voter fraud anyone?
    LMMFAO

    Kari A Tha was listed three times, do you know why??? Because she had 3 convictions, but she only signed the petition once. Clearly those people who developed the list don't much about IT (data processing).


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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    You're right... There must be dozens and dozens of people named "Kari A Tha" in the state of Wisconsin that also lived at that address. LMMFAO

    Other than that clever "attack the source" retort of yours, do you have anything to say about the honesty and ethics of your political brothers and sisters?

    Validated my ass
    When will you admit you're wrong, Grim???

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO

    Kari A Tha was listed three times, do you know why??? Because she had 3 convictions, but she only signed the petition once. Clearly those people who developed the list don't much about IT (data processing).


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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I see... So this whole thing is fabricated... What ever dude.
    Dude, you've been fooled once again by Jim Hoft - The Gateway Pundit.


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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I'll do you one better than that... Look at line 5:

    Attachment 67128286

    Now you might want to go HERE and pay close attention to the address of the defendant...

    Would you say that a retraction on your part is in order?
    It's YOU that needs to retract your comments and apologize Grim.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO

    Kari A Tha was listed three times, do you know why??? Because she had 3 convictions, but she only signed the petition once. Clearly those people who developed the list don't much about IT (data processing).


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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Yes, that's the ticket boys and girls... Anything to avoid dealing with the dishonesty and lack of moral standards of your political brothers and sisters.
    Please admit YOU are wrong and admit this is one of the worst threads created at DP.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO

    Kari A Tha was listed three times, do you know why??? Because she had 3 convictions, but she only signed the petition once. Clearly those people who developed the list don't much about IT (data processing).


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    Re: Voter Fraud? 20,000 Felons Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Already did... You will find it on post #1

    About that retraction?
    Hopefully from you Grim?
    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO


    Kari A Tha was listed three times, do you know why??? Because she had 3 convictions, but she only signed the petition once. Clearly those people who developed the list don't much about IT (data processing).


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