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NAACP backs gay marriage

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The board of the NAACP, one of the nation’s oldest and largest African American advocacy organizations, has passed a resolution supporting gay marriage in the wake of President Obama’s public endorsement of same-sex unions.“The mission of the NAACP has always been to ensure the political, social and economic equality of all people,” board chair Roslyn M. Brock said in a statement following passage of the resolution on Saturday. “We have and will oppose efforts to codify discrimination into law.”The chairman emeritus, Julian Bond, had already pledged his support earlier this week as part of a coalition of black leaders trying to tamp down speculation that Obama’s support of gay marriage would divide the black community.The resolution and statement Saturday specifically noted that the group supports “civil marriage” for same sex couples, while respecting religious freedom -- something the president also mentioned when announcing his stance.“Civil marriage is a civil right and a matter of civil law,” NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous said in the statement. “The NAACP’s support for marriage equality is deeply rooted in the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution and equal protection of all people.”[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The group has taken public stances against discrimination based on sexual orientation in the past. The NAACP opposed Proposition 8 in California, the federal Defense of Marriage Act, and more recently, Amendment 1 in North Carolina.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Wow... Is this just another campaign tactic of Obama? Maybe yes maybe no, but i certainly fall behind and back this decision the NACCP has made. More popular groups need to step up to the plate and back this message. [/FONT]

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[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Wow... Is this just another campaign tactic of Obama? Maybe yes maybe no, but i certainly fall behind and back this decision the NACCP has made. More popular groups need to step up to the plate and back this message. [/FONT]

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I think that some will begin to use this as an argument that the NAACP no longer represents the interests of the African-American community. And perhaps, given the voting by African-Americans on this issue, they would be right.
 
I don't see how it could be a campaign tactic by Obama. The NAACP is neither headed by Obama nor entirely supportive of him.

Nevertheless, I'm glad they did this although I'm not entirely surprised. The black population, a very religious population, has been notoriously anti-gay marriage for a while, but it's been becoming more rapidly more progressive along with the rest of the country. You have young black Americans, who are obviously going to be more accepting as younger people usually are. Then you also have older black Civil Rights leaders like Sharpton leading the charge for much of the older black population. Good news all around.
 
I think that some will begin to use this as an argument that the NAACP no longer represents the interests of the African-American community. And perhaps, given the voting by African-Americans on this issue, they would be right.
Eh, I don't think so. Aside from the fact that black Americans are becoming more in favor of gay marriage like the rest of the country, I think the main thing that unites the black population is black-specific political and social interests. Things like that would be hate crimes, police brutality, employment/housing discrimination, poor education in minority neighborhoods and so on. Things like gay marriage support aren't really essential in determining who "represents" the unified interests of black Americans, in my opinion.
 
I don't see how it could be a campaign tactic by Obama. The NAACP is neither headed by Obama nor entirely supportive of him.

Nevertheless, I'm glad they did this although I'm not entirely surprised. The black population, a very religious population, has been notoriously anti-gay marriage for a while, but it's been becoming more rapidly more progressive along with the rest of the country. You have young black Americans, who are obviously going to be more accepting as younger people usually are. Then you also have older black Civil Rights leaders like Sharpton leading the charge for much of the older black population. Good news all around.

Yep. Believe i read somewhere that Romney has actually been courting the NAACP. Trying to get an endorsement.


(Will see if i can find that link.....)
 
Eh, I don't think so. Aside from the fact that black Americans are becoming more in favor of gay marriage like the rest of the country, I think the main thing that unites the black population is black-specific political and social interests. Things like that would be hate crimes, police brutality, employment/housing discrimination, poor education in minority neighborhoods and so on. Things like gay marriage support aren't really essential in determining who "represents" the unified interests of black Americans, in my opinion.

I tend to agree, though I see the converse as a legitimate argument. Not being African-American, I can't really speak to what the NAACP SHOULD be, nor can I really suggest that same-sex marriage should be on that journey.

Don't get me wrong, I tend to agree with the NAACP that same-sex marriage is a civil right. I'm just not sure that their constituents agree and instead find the assertion that gay rights are civil rights to be offensive.
 
It is a very important endorsement. Marriage equality is a civil rights issue and always has been, but for years many people were reluctant to acknowledge that. Now that even organizations like the NAACP are on board that should be clear to everybody.
 
From what I was reading just after Biden said he supported same sex marriage but before Obama made his own announcement, Al Sharpton had said that it wasn't him and I believe the NAACP (not sure who was representing them, it was an OP ED I was reading) said that it was not them either that were holding Obama back from also supporting same sex marriage.

Actually, I'm willing to bet that the more people seeing others who they consider leaders of their community, whether due to race or religion or celebrity status, who come out in support of same sex marriage, the greater the change is going to go for many to actually support same sex marriage. Some will stubbornly hold onto their beliefs, depending on who they consider the most important person to listen to but many view those who have and are coming out to support this as leaders and value their opinions.
 
It is a very important endorsement. Marriage equality is a civil rights issue and always has been, but for years many people were reluctant to acknowledge that. Now that even organizations like the NAACP are on board that should be clear to everybody.

The upper echelons of the NAACP has publicly endorsed gay rights as civil rights for years. In fact, the NAACP was made effective by several homosexuals.
 
I don't have an issue with gay marriage. I do have an issue with the timing of this "announcement". How hypocritical can they be? The NAACP ceased being a credible organization a loooooong time ago and this highlights why. The black population, as a whole, does not approve of gay marriage. However, the NAACP decides to contradict the very minority they represent just to support a candidate who is black. This also highlights the fact that they ceased to be an organization that represents values or beliefs and have evolved into just another political mouthpiece.
 
The black population, a very religious population, has been notoriously anti-gay marriage for a while

Sorry, but I just couldn't help but think of another thread about this subject when I read this...

the other side *are* bigots

I don't view the anti-SSM position to be based upon anything other than prejudice and ignorance

those who are against it maintain some sort of prejudice toward gays

if you actively participate in preventing others from having equal rights as an american you are a huge hypocrite and the possibility of you being a bigot, arrogant, illogical, irrational, prejudice and or a fool is solidly present.

So to sum up...the black majority in the U.S. are bigots, prejudiced, ignorant, arrogant, irrational fools, and if actively participating in anti-SSM, huge hypocrites.

Hm. :thinking
 
I don't have an issue with gay marriage. I do have an issue with the timing of this "announcement". How hypocritical can they be? The NAACP ceased being a credible organization a loooooong time ago and this highlights why. The black population, as a whole, does not approve of gay marriage. However, the NAACP decides to contradict the very minority they represent just to support a candidate who is black. This also highlights the fact that they ceased to be an organization that represents values or beliefs and have evolved into just another political mouthpiece.

It doesn't seem like you are clear on what the word "hypocritical" means.
 
Sorry, but I just couldn't help but think of another thread about this subject when I read this...









So to sum up...the black majority in the U.S. are bigots, prejudiced, ignorant, arrogant, irrational fools, and if actively participating in anti-SSM, huge hypocrites.

Hm. :thinking

For the most part, when it comes to this particular issue, yes.
 
Sorry, but I just couldn't help but think of another thread about this subject when I read this...

So to sum up...the black majority in the U.S. are bigots, prejudiced, ignorant, arrogant, irrational fools, and if actively participating in anti-SSM, huge hypocrites.

Hm. :thinking
Actually, the majority now support SSM. But yes, the majority of Americans have been all of those things - that includes black Americans, the segment of Americans that are the topic of this thread. And actually, one of the main criticisms of black Americans against SSM is the hypocrisy factor. In fact, many blacks have criticized fellow members of the black population on this very thing.

That said, what's your point?
 
So to sum up...the black majority in the U.S. are bigots, prejudiced, ignorant, arrogant, irrational fools, and if actively participating in anti-SSM, huge hypocrites.

Hm. :thinking


Well yeah...so? Did you think we pro SSM folks would think different of them just because they're Black?
 
Gays and blacks belong to the group identity known as the "left", stop acting so surprised.
 
I don't have an issue with gay marriage. I do have an issue with the timing of this "announcement". How hypocritical can they be? The NAACP ceased being a credible organization a loooooong time ago and this highlights why. The black population, as a whole, does not approve of gay marriage. However, the NAACP decides to contradict the very minority they represent just to support a candidate who is black. This also highlights the fact that they ceased to be an organization that represents values or beliefs and have evolved into just another political mouthpiece.
The bold is false although it has been true in the past. Moreover, people like Al Sharpton - a leader of at least part of the black "community" - has supported SSM for a while. That said, as I pointed out to another poster, what unites the black population is fundamentally black-specific problems like hate crimes, police brutality, housing discrimination and so on. Therefore, things on the periphery like support or lack of support for gay marriage are really pretty irrelevant when it comes to determining whether a person or institution "represents" black Americans.
 
Actually, the majority now support SSM. But yes, the majority of Americans have been all of those things - that includes black Americans, the segment of Americans that are the topic of this thread. And actually, one of the main criticisms of black Americans against SSM is the hypocrisy factor. In fact, many blacks have criticized fellow members of the black population on this very thing.

That said, what's your point?

Mrs. Loving was a strong supporter of same sex marriage and believed that it was basically the same thing she and her husband fought for and won the right to have, to marry the person you want to and who wants to marry you, despite other people's religious objections to the union.
 
What does the NWAAP say? Oh. Wait. There isn't one.


Sorry. I'm grumpy.
 
What does the NWAAP say? Oh. Wait. There isn't one.
Is this one of those "why isn't there a White History Month" type comments that entirely misses the point of societal context?
 
“In 2010, just 30% of non-Hispanic Blacks favor gay marriage while 59% are opposed. From 2008 to 2000, 28% of Blacks favored same-sex marriage and 62% were opposed.”

News Analysis: Understanding Black Attitudes Toward Homosexuality

'In each of North Carolina's five largest cities, voters in majority-black precincts rejected the measure: Charlotte (52 percent), Raleigh (51 percent), Greensboro (54 percent), Winston-Salem (55 percent), and Durham (65 percent). Durham's results were dramatic: Not a single majority-black precinct supported the amendment. Several crushed it by margins of 3-to-1 and even 4-to-1.'

Town and Country
 
“In 2010, just 30% of non-Hispanic Blacks favor gay marriage while 59% are opposed. From 2008 to 2000, 28% of Blacks favored same-sex marriage and 62% were opposed.”

News Analysis: Understanding Black Attitudes Toward Homosexuality

'In each of North Carolina's five largest cities, voters in majority-black precincts rejected the measure: Charlotte (52 percent), Raleigh (51 percent), Greensboro (54 percent), Winston-Salem (55 percent), and Durham (65 percent). Durham's results were dramatic: Not a single majority-black precinct supported the amendment. Several crushed it by margins of 3-to-1 and even 4-to-1.'

Town and Country

Do you think we aren't aware the majority of the black community doesn't support Gay Marriage? This isn't new news.
 
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