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    Re: NAACP backs gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Actually, the majority now support SSM. But yes, the majority of Americans have been all of those things - that includes black Americans, the segment of Americans that are the topic of this thread. And actually, one of the main criticisms of black Americans against SSM is the hypocrisy factor. In fact, many blacks have criticized fellow members of the black population on this very thing.

    That said, what's your point?
    Mrs. Loving was a strong supporter of same sex marriage and believed that it was basically the same thing she and her husband fought for and won the right to have, to marry the person you want to and who wants to marry you, despite other people's religious objections to the union.
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    Re: NAACP backs gay marriage

    What does the NWAAP say? Oh. Wait. There isn't one.


    Sorry. I'm grumpy.

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    Re: NAACP backs gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    What does the NWAAP say? Oh. Wait. There isn't one.
    Is this one of those "why isn't there a White History Month" type comments that entirely misses the point of societal context?

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    Re: NAACP backs gay marriage

    “In 2010, just 30% of non-Hispanic Blacks favor gay marriage while 59% are opposed. From 2008 to 2000, 28% of Blacks favored same-sex marriage and 62% were opposed.”

    News Analysis: Understanding Black Attitudes Toward Homosexuality

    'In each of North Carolina's five largest cities, voters in majority-black precincts rejected the measure: Charlotte (52 percent), Raleigh (51 percent), Greensboro (54 percent), Winston-Salem (55 percent), and Durham (65 percent). Durham's results were dramatic: Not a single majority-black precinct supported the amendment. Several crushed it by margins of 3-to-1 and even 4-to-1.'

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    Re: NAACP backs gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    “In 2010, just 30% of non-Hispanic Blacks favor gay marriage while 59% are opposed. From 2008 to 2000, 28% of Blacks favored same-sex marriage and 62% were opposed.”

    News Analysis: Understanding Black Attitudes Toward Homosexuality

    'In each of North Carolina's five largest cities, voters in majority-black precincts rejected the measure: Charlotte (52 percent), Raleigh (51 percent), Greensboro (54 percent), Winston-Salem (55 percent), and Durham (65 percent). Durham's results were dramatic: Not a single majority-black precinct supported the amendment. Several crushed it by margins of 3-to-1 and even 4-to-1.'

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    Do you think we aren't aware the majority of the black community doesn't support Gay Marriage? This isn't new news.
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    Re: NAACP backs gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    “In 2010, just 30% of non-Hispanic Blacks favor gay marriage while 59% are opposed. From 2008 to 2000, 28% of Blacks favored same-sex marriage and 62% were opposed.”

    News Analysis: Understanding Black Attitudes Toward Homosexuality

    'In each of North Carolina's five largest cities, voters in majority-black precincts rejected the measure: Charlotte (52 percent), Raleigh (51 percent), Greensboro (54 percent), Winston-Salem (55 percent), and Durham (65 percent). Durham's results were dramatic: Not a single majority-black precinct supported the amendment. Several crushed it by margins of 3-to-1 and even 4-to-1.'

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    Still waiting to hear your point...

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    Re: NAACP backs gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    “In 2010, just 30% of non-Hispanic Blacks favor gay marriage while 59% are opposed. From 2008 to 2000, 28% of Blacks favored same-sex marriage and 62% were opposed.”

    News Analysis: Understanding Black Attitudes Toward Homosexuality

    'In each of North Carolina's five largest cities, voters in majority-black precincts rejected the measure: Charlotte (52 percent), Raleigh (51 percent), Greensboro (54 percent), Winston-Salem (55 percent), and Durham (65 percent). Durham's results were dramatic: Not a single majority-black precinct supported the amendment. Several crushed it by margins of 3-to-1 and even 4-to-1.'

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    Not only is this changing on its own, it is likely that if more of those in the black community who are considered leaders come out in support of same sex marriage, at least on the legal level, that this could also influence more people from that community to support it being legal as well. It may not be a major amount of people influenced, but it could at least be a few. It is not likely however to change anyone's view in the other direction, someone who supported same sex marriage and now doesn't just from this announcement.
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    Re: NAACP backs gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Flippinfunky View Post
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    That about sums it up.
    It's a damned shame she couldn't get that out during her husbands Administration... perhaps things would have been closer to settled in equality by now.

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    Re: NAACP backs gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by dabateman View Post
    It's a damned shame she couldn't get that out during her husbands Administration... perhaps things would have been closer to settled in equality by now.
    Although I agree that it would have been great for more powerful people to come out in support of same sex marriage earlier, particularly those like Hillary Clinton, I'm not sure it would have helped a whole lot. While I would hope that it might have, it may also have actually had a negative effect on same sex relationships, particularly marriage. It is possible that in '96 when the federal DOMA was passed, had Clinton not signed it, it could have led to an actual Federal Marriage Amendment. Unfortunately, during that time, the support for such things were very high, even at the level of being able to actually make it an Amendment. An Amendment against ssm would take much longer to go down, since it would need to repealed, not just declared unconstitutional by the SC.

    Keep in mind, sodomy was just ruled as a private affair that could not have laws restricting it by the SC in '03. This means that it was still considered against the law in many places to have sex with people of the same sex, in any form, during Clinton's administration. The change and that ruling in particular to a belief that same sex relationships, particularly sexual relationships, could not be legally restricted was very important to reaching the point we are at today.

    Now, I know that you didn't mention DOMA specifically, but it just seemed to fit, considering it was signed into law by Pres. Clinton.
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    Re: NAACP backs gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Is this one of those "why isn't there a White History Month" type comments that entirely misses the point of societal context?

    Yup

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