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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I really don't care if you are an attorney or not; you don't act like an attorney. No, I guess you do act like an attorney, too bad.

    The future might be well for you though. There was an attorney who died the same day a Pope died and they both went to heaven. They were shown where they would spend eternity. The Pope got a trailer house while the lawyer got a mansion. The lawyer was perplexed and ask why he got such a nice home while the Pope only got a trailer? He was told, " We have plenty of Popes here; your the first lawyer we've ever seen!
    yeah the version i heard was that a brilliant HVAC engineer went to hell by accident. and the minute he got there he went to Lucifer and told him the place needed work. Amused, the devil gave the engineer some demons and minions to help him and all the tools he needed and within a month the place was air conditioned, there were swimming pools etc. well as the Devil was sitting by the pool a demon came up and said master-saint Peter is on the hot line for you.

    so Lucifer answers and SP says, Hey do you have a guy down there who died about a month ago-an HVAC engineer? and Lucifer said Yeah. SP said well there was a mistake and we want him up here. Lucifer says-Sorry old chap, we like him here and we aren't letting him go

    so Saint Peter says WELL WE WILL SUE

    and the Devil laughs

    yeah right you have attorneys up there?

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true and the 40% bit is outright BS.
    You want adults making 7.50 an hour to pay taxs...better yet you think they can...ok..tell me turtle how does a Husband and Wife making minimum wage with a kid or two..live..they pay rent, they have to buy food, and they have to buy other necessities...you think they can do that on 15 bucks an hour and still pay sales taxs, state taxs, user fees and have enough to pay fed tax so you can get another tax deduction.
    Theres 40% in this country approx right now that cant afford pay taxs...25 yrs that percentage was alot less...
    Turtle I realize your immune to sacrifice and pain now...but you really need to use the intelligence I know you have and realize just how many people cant make it...even working people.

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    You want adults making 7.50 an hour to pay taxs...better yet you think they can...ok..tell me turtle how does a Husband and Wife making minimum wage with a kid or two..live..they pay rent, they have to buy food, and they have to buy other necessities...you think they can do that on 15 bucks an hour and still pay sales taxs, state taxs, user fees and have enough to pay fed tax so you can get another tax deduction.
    Theres 40% in this country approx right now that cant afford pay taxs...25 yrs that percentage was alot less...
    Turtle I realize your immune to sacrifice and pain now...but you really need to use the intelligence I know you have and realize just how many people cant make it...even working people.

    Id rather have a government that was limited to its proper powers meaning taxes would be much much much lower.

    but if you cannot pay taxes or pay more taxes your first inclination should be to demand less government rather than demanding more government that others should pay for

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Id rather have a government that was limited to its proper powers meaning taxes would be much much much lower.

    but if you cannot pay taxes or pay more taxes your first inclination should be to demand less government rather than demanding more government that others should pay for
    At least I got somewhat of an acknowledgement from you that there are people busting their arses that still pay many taxs and cant make it...now you get no arguement from me...that govt needs to spend less...no more subsidies for corps...no more foreign aid...no more loopholes and tax havens for the rich...dont raise their taxs just make them pay their tax rate for once like the middleclass does... thats a big start...then we can go from there...

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    At least I got somewhat of an acknowledgement from you that there are people busting their arses that still pay many taxs and cant make it...now you get no arguement from me...that govt needs to spend less...no more subsidies for corps...no more foreign aid...no more loopholes and tax havens for the rich...dont raise their taxs just make them pay their tax rate for once like the middleclass does... thats a big start...then we can go from there...

    do you really want people like me who make between 500K and a few million paying the same rates as the middle class for FED Income tax?

    I sure wish I did,

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you really want people like me who make between 500K and a few million paying the same rates as the middle class for FED Income tax?

    I sure wish I did,
    Umm I didnt say that...I said you should be paying a flat 35% like you should...no loopholes no tax havens...just as the middleclass pay their tax rate...

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Umm I didnt say that...I said you should be paying a flat 35% like you should...no loopholes no tax havens...just as the middleclass pay their tax rate...
    why should I pay 35% on my next dollar when most others do not

    and why should I pay 35% on investment income that is been diminished by inflation, risk or has already been taxed once when you don't on yours?

    I don't get any extra benefits from the government so why should I pay a higher rate than you do (i am already paying far more actual tax dollars than you do)

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why should I pay 35% on my next dollar when most others do not

    and why should I pay 35% on investment income that is been diminished by inflation, risk or has already been taxed once when you don't on yours?

    I don't get any extra benefits from the government so why should I pay a higher rate than you do (i am already paying far more actual tax dollars than you do)
    Because thats your tax rate...

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Because thats your tax rate...
    but not on investment income

    if the best you can do is point to the law then I can to

    that is a really lame argument btw

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You forgot all the other stuff-oops. Do you know how much it costs to actually get them there in some cases?
    It wasn't me. It was the trained professionals who are responsible for cost accounting for federal prisons. I just know where to find their work. Obviously, you don't and couldn't care less since your whole schtick is just to make up whatever numbers you want as you go along.
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