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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    As was explained earlier, they are not now and never have been used as general revenue funds. Next...
    that's not accurate.... SS revenue is borrowed by the government and , indeed, used as general revenue funds... hell, SS benefits are paid from the general fund.

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    that's not accurate.... SS revenue is borrowed by the government and , indeed, used as general revenue funds... hell, SS benefits are paid from the general fund.
    that has been confirmed numerous times on this board in many posts. Looks like the cardinal is not infallible

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that has been confirmed numerous times on this board in many posts. Looks like the cardinal is not infallible
    the cardinal exists here solely to yank on your chain.... I wouldn't put any effort into him.

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    the cardinal exists here solely to yank on your chain.... I wouldn't put any effort into him.
    That is one of the most intelligent posts I have seen on this thread or on this board in months

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and where do they get that money
    Work. I'm not aware of too many other places where you can earn minimum wage.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how much do they use in government services on the average
    Rather little. Much less than all these high-maintenance rich people.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    minimum wage is something most people get out of the way by the time they are out of school.
    About 23% of minimum wage workers are below the age of twenty. 100 minus 23 equals 77. About 33% of minimum wage workers are married heads of households. About half of those have children.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Did it ever occur to you that if most people did not have artificially low income taxes because the rich have high income taxes, they might be less likely to demand more government?
    People in general haven't any idea of how much or what sort of government to ask for, nor any sort of means for doing any asking. Now rich people? That's a different story. How many Super-PACS's and 504(c)(4)'s do you think foodstamp recipients are funding? How many lobbyists do they have on retainer? How many policy shops do they run? The people doing all the tincupping here are the rich and powerful, not the low- and moderate-income folks.

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so the FICA funds have never ever been co-mingled with other government tax revenues?
    That's correct.

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Dammit cardinal. You and your straight facts and no bull**** attitude...

    The gods will have to torture you with the psychopathic noobery of the republican masses for this...

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    does anyone have any proof that the top one percent-which pays 40% of the federal income tax and all of the estate tax cost the government more when you net out government spending -taxes paid than the bottom 20% that pays less than 2% of the federal income tax and none of the estate tax?

    I get the distinct feeling that no one can prove the rich cost the government more than that bottom quintile. do you know what is the most expensive common thing you can do to cost the government money ? be incarcerated in a federal prison at a young age serving a life or 300+ month sentence. Guess which group makes up most of those costing us 40-50K a year in USP Florence or Terra Haute etc?

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Dammit cardinal. You and your straight facts and no bull**** attitude...

    The gods will have to torture you with the psychopathic noobery of the republican masses for this...
    I didn't know you were auditioning for a mini me role? his straight facts have been shown to be nonsense in several instances.

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    this is called projection
    You've had every chance and still haven't explained the IF the bailouts came from tax dollars comment. You leave the unmistakable impression that you couldn't actually explain how the bailouts were funded.
    Last edited by Cardinal Fang; 05-22-12 at 10:55 PM.

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