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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    i have repeatedly and frequently stated that I want ALL Americans earning dollar one to pay more taxes. And that includes the 47% currently not paying federal income tax. I will search for my prior posts where I posted actual percentage increases and put them up here.

    Basically I would have ALL American earners paying at least 5% of their income in federal income tax. Current middle class taxpayers would see about a 3% increase. Upper earners would see about a 5% increase. I would end most deductions for all. I would end the inheritance tax and the capital gains taxes and simply treat them as normal income and apply the appropriate tax rate schedule. I would pop the cap on FICA limits and have ALL Americans pay FICA on all of their earnings instead of just the 93% who now do.
    Watch how super fast the debt disappears...but its not going to happen Haymarket....the rich and corporations will always whine they pay too much taxs...all the while they pay next to nothing year after year....and the GOP will always champion everyone else paying for the richs tax cuts

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    i have repeatedly and frequently stated that I want ALL Americans earning dollar one to pay more taxes. And that includes the 47% currently not paying federal income tax. I will search for my prior posts where I posted actual percentage increases and put them up here.

    Basically I would have ALL American earners paying at least 5% of their income in federal income tax. Current middle class taxpayers would see about a 3% increase. Upper earners would see about a 5% increase. I would end most deductions for all. I would end the inheritance tax and the capital gains taxes and simply treat them as normal income and apply the appropriate tax rate schedule. I would pop the cap on FICA limits and have ALL Americans pay FICA on all of their earnings instead of just the 93% who now do.
    I partially agree... i'm actually sorta ok with an across the board increase in income taxes.
    not on board with the inheritance tax idea, the capital gains tax idea... and i'm so not on board with doing away with the cap on FICA.

    that said, I will not support any tax increases unless they are coupled with, or preceded by, comprehensive spending reform... I don't like the idea of just throwing more money at the federal government without them changing their irresponsible ways.

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I partially agree... i'm actually sorta ok with an across the board increase in income taxes.
    not on board with the inheritance tax idea, the capital gains tax idea... and i'm so not on board with doing away with the cap on FICA.
    If you placed three piles of one million dollars in front of a person - one coming from wages, one coming from capital gains and the third from inheritance there is nobody on the planet who could tell them apart with any degree of accuracy. Why should the government give discriminatory preferential rates to the income streams of the rich over the income streams of working people?
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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If you placed three piles of one million dollars in front of a person - one coming from wages, one coming from capital gains and the third from inheritance there is nobody on the planet who could tell them apart with any degree of accuracy. Why should the government give discriminatory preferential rates to the income streams of the rich over the income streams of working people?
    A great example is Mitt Romney who makes millions every year in investment income...and paid 13% income tax or less

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    I do not care if they leave. No hard feelings. Goodbye, and good luck.



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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Why should anyone choose to pay more taxes?
    You call them scum, I just see them taking advantage of a greater opportunity.

    When people change states for these reasons, do you consider them scum as well?
    People that would renounce their citizenship over a few bucks (that they have) in contrast to those that give their lives for the country (for which they have one), given that comparison are unpatriotic scum. Who cares if the leave?
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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If you placed three piles of one million dollars in front of a person - one coming from wages, one coming from capital gains and the third from inheritance there is nobody on the planet who could tell them apart with any degree of accuracy. Why should the government give discriminatory preferential rates to the income streams of the rich over the income streams of working people?
    this is true... 1 pile of a million bucks looks identical to the other 2.

    the government should give preferential treatment to differing types of income because there is a compelling social benefit to providing incentives for the different behaviors inherent to those incomes.

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    this is true... 1 pile of a million bucks looks identical to the other 2.

    the government should give preferential treatment to differing types of income because there is a compelling social benefit to providing incentives for the different behaviors inherent to those incomes.
    Please present the case for those compelling social benefits. I would welcome seeing them.
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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    People that would renounce their citizenship over a few bucks (that they have) in contrast to those that give their lives for the country (for which they have one), given that comparison are unpatriotic scum. Who cares if the leave?
    Doesn't matter what you think about them. People should have the right to leave America if they don't like it.

    Also, I don't think US have any right to tax people on income earned abroad, while living abroad. No other country would be able to do the same for their citizens living in America, because US would never accept it. There is an obvious double standard. The reason people renounce their citizenship, is because the system is unfair.

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    A great example is Mitt Romney who makes millions every year in investment income...and paid 13% income tax or less
    If he weren't running for public office he would have payed 0%, just like all the other rich tax evaders.
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