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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Oh well, thank you for your bogus reply.
    that's a stupid study because it is based on so many assumptions that cannot be tested.

    but we know one thing, successful people tend to be more motivated than losers.

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You should try making some sense with your posts. I have no idea what your point is or why you are attacking me.
    us who are sensible sees his posts as making sense.

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's a stupid study because it is based on so many assumptions that cannot be tested.

    but we know one thing, successful people tend to be more motivated than losers.
    Show me your evidence, then we'll talk.

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    anyone who wants more government than they can afford to pay for is by definition selfish. Its far more selfish to impose costs on others than it is for me to not want to pay for what you want
    Apparently, you comments indicate you have little actual knowledge of how taxation works and that it is NOT something that is applied on a voluntary individual basis.
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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    maybe if you pay the same amount of taxes as the rich then you might have some credibility. if you don't then you have no valid comment.
    Every American citizen has the right to comment and make their voice heard about national tax policy. How much a person pays in tax has not a damn thing to do with it. We even have part of the US Constitution which says that.

    You really need to educated yourself Turtle on our system of government and the role of every citizen in it and what their rights are.
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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is generally true with the power hungry rich-the ones that vote for big government and desire more control over other people.

    given that so many rich favor the dems, thanks for that bogus study
    Oh I think it is also true of the right wing rich also---- probably even more so.
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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    us who are sensible sees his posts as making sense.
    that should scare you and rattle your bones and shake your walls.
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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    No, Turtle, I just believe no-one should have right to get out of their taxes. They have no excuse. I've always paid my taxes in full, and they should pay theirs.
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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I thought these people were supposed to be role models for the rest of us. Choosing greed over patriotism like this makes for a pretty bad one. The message here is "I love obscene amounts of money more than I love my country." I guess we've seen their true colors now.


    Why would you need any of these wealthy folks as role models? My folks were my roles models. They told me to work hard an make something of myself. I wasn't waiting for a Mellon, Rockafeller, et al, to give me a hand out or up.


    This guy choose taking his money and going to another country that doesn't tax the rich into oblivion. Has nothing to do with being a patriot. I just wonder how many more are gonna take a hike because of this "fair share" bologna being spread by the current administration.

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    Re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie1 View Post
    No, Turtle, I just believe no-one should have right to get out of their taxes. They have no excuse. I've always paid my taxes in full, and they should pay theirs.
    people are always required, upon renouncing, to provide proof they have paid their taxes and settle their account with the IRS.

    the exit taxes we have in effect now are above and beyond any taxes due....
    if a rich guy renounces, and keeps ownership of a house he has here in the states.. he is requires to pay capital gains tax on that house... even though he did not sell it, nor had plans to sell it... this counts for all of his assets that are susceptible to capital gains taxes if they were to be sold.. the US government pretends you sell all of your assets and taxes you on the gains.
    those are not taxes due... there are no sales or gains, yet the taxes are imposed nonetheless.

    if they have income, they are taxed an amount based on that income for the next 10 years following renouncement.... regardless if they still have that income coming in or not... and you do not get to deduct anything from that levied amount... 5 kids?.. tough.. no deductions for you.
    those are not taxes due.
    even if your income is from the country you chose to move to and gain citizenship... you will still be taxed on that income in the US.

    not even murderers or rapists are treated this way by the federal government

    this stuff goes way beyond paying your due taxes.... it ventures far into the realm of punishing people for leaving the US... and it all requires the government to pretend things happen that didn't happen ( the selling of assets, the future income taxes).. it requires the US federal government to lie.
    ...and people support it still.... amazing.


    oh, and if you want to come back into the country to challenge anything, in a court of law, that the federal government throws at you.... bam.. deportation.. you aren't allowed back in at all..forever.

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