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    re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I remember reading articles about that and I know some expats living aboard. It seems like expats from other countries believe America treats theirs unfairly. Most other countries do not make their citizens pay taxes if they live aboard. As some expats will explain, they review it as taxation without representation. I can understand why it would be frustrating.
    I can understand taxing expats who earned their income while working in the US, but not those who live and earn their money abroad unless they're working for a US company. But yeah, I can see how it could be frustrating too. What price to pay to live in paradise?

    Most of the US ex pats I've met have been on forums. lol

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    re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    As well the unions are so powerful that they could stop the country from functioning tomorrow.
    wow, did you hear that on TV or did you make that up yourself.

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    re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    it's very expensive to renounce your citizenship...Uncle Sam makes sure you are punished for leaving the US... and somehow, liberals enjoy the thought of punishing people for leaving this society and striking out in a new one.. 'cuz liberals are all about freedom and self determination and stuff.
    Libertarians sound like neo-monarchists, always licking the boots of the super-rich.

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    re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Is that so? I bet I can beat it.

    Patriotism is only a way to quilt people in doing what you want them to do. People that use it try to put a connection in people to a country that doesn't even exist. It is trying to quilt people in thinking they should be responsible for everyone or help the country as a whole.

    Did I beat it?
    Quilting people is a totally disgusting concept. It reminds me of reading about lampshades found in the German concentration camps at the end of WW2 made from human skin.
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    re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Btw hay, what exactly am I supposed to do anyway?

    You say you want me to leave but then if I do you yell and scream and call me names for leaving. The only possible thing you could really want is for me to sit down and shut up so you can use me without listening to my protest. Anything else doesn't make any sense if your words are to believed.

    Though I'm guessing I'm just creating monsters again..
    Your "protest"? And that would be what exactly? Engaging in political missionary work doing the equivalent of going door to door distributing your sad little pamphlets promoting libertarianism on the internet?

    Go for it. That is a strategy that you should pursue. I would not change a thing.

    If people of that persuasion do leave they will be out of sight and out of mind. I would not give it a second of thought and consider the nation much richer for the benefit of addition by subtraction.
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    re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you sure are whining a lot. you ever bill 60 hours in a week? hard work is more than just mindless toil. the more pressure on you, the more complex the task the harder it is. That is why people who work with their brains generally are paid far higher than those who don't have responsibilities or have to make decisions
    I can see you really are a hard worker.

    Sixty hours a week! How do you survive? If you actually were a worker, you would see the humor and ignorance in your posting. Let me ask you, during that tough, sixty-hour week, how much of that time is spent sitting on your ass?

    It's good that you are educated and are able to practice law (thank daddy). However, please don't insult those of us who actually work in America.

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    re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its doesn't take much prodding to get Haymarket to revert to what he really thinks about the wealthy.

    I want him to start his revolution on my driveway
    Give us your address. I think we will be able to pull it off.

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    re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Give us your address. I think we will be able to pull it off.
    I have it on good authority that the small upper flat Turtle rents does not have a drive-way and he has to park his aging and rusting pick-up on the street.
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    Give us your address. I think we will be able to pull it off.
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    re: Über Rich Renouncing U.S Citizenship as IRS Cracks Down on Tax Evaders [W:209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I heard about that @#$% Facebook founder who renounced his citizenship to avoid taxes. I think we should tell him, sure, he can avoid those taxes like that, but he's never allowed back into the country for any reason, no tourist visas, no business visas, nothing. Don't let him ever set foot onto American soil, and if he does, arrest him and put him in prison for illegal immigration. Make the fine for his release and deportation whatever amount of money his taxes as an American citizen would have been.
    I think it all depends upon whether or not they are up-to-date on their taxes when they leave. If they've paid their taxes all along, then they ought to be able to leave on good terms and afterward be treated like any other foreign national. If, on the other hand, they owe taxes and skip out in order to avoid paying their debt, then that would be a problem.

    But I find nothing intrinsically offensive about people emigrating. It's the nature of their emigration that matters. There's a big difference between a guy leaving town because he has unpaid parking tickets and a guy leaving town because he just wants to live someplace different, even if part of his reasoning is to move to a lower-tax area. I know a lot of people who have emigrated from New Jersey, for example, due to the high taxes. Nothing wrong with that, as long as they don't think that moving will relieve them of their obligation to pay any back-taxes they might owe.
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